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Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« on: Wednesday 08 November 23 21:24 GMT (UK) »
I need help deciphering and translating some pages from my 2x great-grandfather's journal. Carl Gustaf Johansson was born in Sweden in 1852 and immigrated to the USA in 1879 settling in Kansas, then later moved to Oklahoma in 1889.

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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 November 23 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to RootsChat.
Interesting read. It looked gibberish at first trying to make head or tails of it all. I think it is his way of trying to learn/communicate in English. His written Swedish is oddly spelt as if it is anglicised in some way or he just couldn't spell.

The first image at the top says:
"The America Journey from Stockholm to Gothenburg"

The second paragraph:
To be honest I just cannot understand what he has written.

Third paragraph:
I want
We want
You want
Day pay
A ?
A horse?

The text to the right is pronounciation help I think.


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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 November 23 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Images 2 and 4 are the same. It looks like the other page on the opposite side is required.

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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 November 23 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat
This topic could be of interest to other people with Swedish origins . After the decipherers have had a go  it could be transferred to a foreign countries forum .

Some of the sentences remind me of Norwegian dialects .

Ting m egg ....in margin of first document could be " things with me "
But that doesn't make sense with  " I want .you want etc "
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson


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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 November 23 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Second image:
This page could be his way of trying to remember the English equivalent words.

?
Should throw ?
?
True ?
Halifax
Prison, penitentiary
Spider, spades
Port
Talk
Forgotten, I forget
I want to remember
?


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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 November 23 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Third image:
None of this makes sense to us but to him it does. It is pretty hard to read and translate.
Maybe he worked as a blacksmith............ caustic soda, blasting etc

for only behaviour either
incorrect English
first dip finger in ? caustic soda
? blasting and then lubricate


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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 November 23 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I agree with the translation theory

 I won't forgets
+ His version of 'I will recollect "

Do you know anything about his occupation in Sweden+ in USA

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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 November 23 15:48 GMT (UK) »
He was a farmer in 1900.

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Re: Journal from the 1800s written mostly in Swedish
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 November 23 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks!

I did wonder if it was mixed with English.

I don't know much about him before he came to the USA. The earliest record I have found is a Kansas state census record from 1885, where his occupation was listed as a stone mason and he owned the farm he and his wife lived on.

Here's a couple more pages, since I couldn't add more than four the first time. I think several pages are addresses and the one seems to be about his trip to America.