Mother of Thomas DREW, 1692

[mazi]

The battle of Worcester, 3sept 1651, marked the victory of Cromwell 28000 strong army of parliamentarians over Charles forces, having marched there leaving a trail of pillaged villages behind them, seizeing food to feed this massive army.

It is from this point on that the established church mostly disappeared with incumbents forcibly displaced by puritan “ministers”.

It is little wonder that many records were destroyed, marriages became a civil ceremony, and many puritans did not believe in baptisms. Few, if any bishops transcripts exist for this period.

Mike

[garlands]

In the hope that it might lead me somewhere useful, I've been looking at the Family Tree detailed in Reply #6, particularly:-

Rev'D Joseph HILL (1615 - 1694)

The nearest baptism appears to be 1617 in Devizes

The nearest I can find for his burial is:-

10 Jan 1683  at  Credenhill

which is acceptable for location, but way out for date.

Are there any supportive details out there which I'm missing?

[garlands]

If Joseph HILL really was 'the Reverend', my guess is that he was a graduate of Oxford or Cambridge. I've found, and searched, a list of Oxford graduates without success, but I've failed to find a similar list for Cambridge other than on 'Ancestry'. Can anyone help, please?

[Watson]

garlands asks:

" Are there any supportive details out there which I'm missing?

which is acceptable for location, but way out for date."

I'm afraid you've lost me there, but you may find someone else is able to answer.

[garlands]

Watson

Sorry; somehow the two sentences were transposed. I've now re-positioned them

[Watson]

I don't see any merit in the 1683 burial at Credenhill.  Your Joseph Hill is known to have died between 1691 and 1694 (source: abstract of will referred to in reply #3).

You seem to be considering Rev. Joseph Hill.  Could you share whatever evidence you have that he died in 1694?  As I noted earlier, the abstract of your Joseph's will (in The Wills of Herefordshire) does not mention that he was Reverend.  To be certain, I suggest that you obtain a full copy of this will.  It is inconceivable that the will would not mention that, so, if it doesn't, you could then rule out the Reverend.

[mazi]

https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/CreatePersonFrames.jsp?PersonID=13294


There are only two Joseph hills in the clergy database for the time period you are looking at,
Neither seem to to be your Joseph.

If he was a reverend it was not with the established church.

Mike

[garlands]

Watson: reprimand duly noted; I accept that a man buried in 1683 might have some difficulty writing a will in 1691!

Concerning sharing evidence of his burial in 1694 - I should be delighted to share it with you, if it existed. All I have are the dates given in #6.

I have, however, come across the following transcript:-

14 Aug 1692  burial of Joseph HILL in Bromyard

Unfortunately, no other details and no sight of the original but, surely, our man?

mazi: the reference to his being a reverend is at the tail end of #6.

I hesitate to say this, but the more I look into this 'tree' the more it appears to be a work of fiction.

[Watson]

"14 Aug 1692  burial of Joseph HILL in Bromyard"

How did you come by this transcript?  If it is correct, it may be your Joseph.  The parish, Bromyard, fits, but it would mean the interval between death and probate had been longer than usual - about two years and four months.