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Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« on: Monday 13 November 23 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am trying to find out more about my relative John Edward Edmonds (the father of my relative Harold Edmonds) born Sandbach 1879 (Aug 24th if I am looking at the right info?). Everything seems to be in the Sandbach area.
I have seen a baptism record stating parents William and Ann and I can find a marriage listed for a William Edmonds & Ann Done June 9th 1872 in Elworth.

However there's nothing on there for Ann's father's occupation and I can't find out when she was born or when she dies.  There is an Annie Edmonds (Congleton)who dies 1879 and I would have assumed childbirth, however this is listed as first quarter (Jan, Feb March) and her son isn't born till August, so puts a spanner in my thinking!  ???

Any thoughts/ information would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance, :)
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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:10 GMT (UK) »
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However there's nothing on there for Ann's father's occupation

Have you got his name?  Perhaps he was deceased. 

Do you have John Edward on the 1881 census?  If Ann was still alive her birthplace will be shown.
If she had died than his father will be shown as widowed.
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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the marriage entry for William and Ann, there is also no name entered for her father, which tends to suggest that Ann was illegitimate.  It doesn't help either that there are no ages listed, just "full age". 
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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:15 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1881 in Widnes which links the right surnames

James Rathbone 53 head
Elizabeth Rathbone 44 wife
Martha Done 16 dau
Emily Rathbone 9 dau
James Rathbone 7 son
Jenny Rathbone 4 dau
John Edmunds 2 grandson born Sandbach
John Murphy 20 boarder
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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:20 GMT (UK) »
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John Edward Edmonds

Need his birth certificate for more information on the parents I think. 

Where did the Aug 24th birth date come from please?

Could be this registration with no middle name.

John Edmonds Jun 1879 Congleton mothers maiden name Done

so that would put Aug 24th out of the running  :-\
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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:23 GMT (UK) »
No, I don't have her father's name, just a line where it would be on the parish register.

I have a John E Edmonds in 1881 living with his grandparents in Widnes. but they are James and Elizaeth Rathbone. There is another Done (Martha) who is listed as daughter also living there???

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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:28 GMT (UK) »
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John Edward Edmonds

Need his birth certificate for more information on the parents I think. 

Where did the Aug 24th birth date come from please?

Could be this registration with no middle name.

John Edmonds Jun 1879 Congleton mothers maiden name Done

so that would put Aug 24th out of the running  :-\

24th Aug from Parish Baptisms ... hang on glad you asked that , just realised Birthdate 1st Feb 1879 and baptism 24th Aug, so it is posssible that Ann is his mum and she sadly did die after his birth.

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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:29 GMT (UK) »
I think in 1891/1901 he is with an Edmonds family - helpfully 1901 describes him as nephew whereas 1891 is just boarder so something to go on there.

1901

Charlotte Edmonds 50 head
William Edmonds 27 nephew
John E Edmunds 22 nephew
Annie Snelson 7 granddaughter

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Re: Ann Done married to Edmonds confusion -Sandbach
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 November 23 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I think in 1891/1901 he is with an Edmonds family - helpfully 1901 describes him as nephew whereas 1891 is just boarder so something to go on there.

1901

Charlotte Edmonds 50 head
William Edmonds 27 nephew
John E Edmunds 22 nephew
Annie Snelson 7 granddaughter

Yes, I think that must be his Aunt Charlotte