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Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« on: Thursday 23 November 23 05:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone I really need help with the Children of Eliza Martin Eliza was born Eliza Robinson in Abt 1856 to James Robinson & Ann Burton In Alfreton Derbyshire she married Samuel Martin on 4 Aug 1879 they had 2/3 children Samuel James Martin 1880 & Emily Mabel Martin 1885 she can be found in 1881 & 1891 Census with parents James & Ann it looks like Samuel had died so far so good for years I had Eliza as dying in 1898 and left it at that until I found a DNA match that left me with more questions than answers I have recently found her second marriage on the 19 Sep 1891 to a James Beesley giving her Father as James Robinson this is where it gets complicated for me at least on the 1901 Census it gives the names of James & Eliza then stepson James Martin 1880, stepdaughter Mabel Martin 1886 who I assume is Emily Mabel Martin, Fred Martin 1892, Harry Martin 1894, Ethel Martin 1897, on the 1911 Census some of the children seem to have changed there name altogether it starts James & Eliza Beesley stepson Samuel James Beesley 1880, William Joseph Beesley 1892, Albert Henry Beasley 1894, Margaret E Beesley 1897 am I seeing things or have the last 3 children all changed their names. Regards Richard
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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 November 23 05:34 GMT (UK) »
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

1892 William Frederick Beasley mother Martin
1894 Albert Henry Beesley, mother Robinson - Harry is a pet name for Henry
1897 Margaret Ethel Beesley, mother Robinson

1911 transcript should read William Frederick
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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 November 23 05:42 GMT (UK) »
19 September 1891 at Riddings Derbyshire  image on ancestry.

Eliza Martin widow 31 father  James Robinson
James Beasley 28 single - father James Beasley

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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 November 23 05:48 GMT (UK) »
1901 census
Fred  9 , Harry 7 and Ethel 4 are ditto under the name Martin but they are not labelled step children as James and Mabel are they are sons and daughters so their surname should be Beasley.


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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 November 23 05:54 GMT (UK) »
1911 census it is Samuel James who is mislabeled as Beasley when he should be Martin as he is clearly listed as a stepson. 

His WWI record has his name as Samuel James Martin

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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 November 23 06:06 GMT (UK) »
When Samuel Martin married Eliza Robinson what was his occupation?

They may have gone their separate ways and married others as divorce was expensive.

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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 November 23 06:28 GMT (UK) »
Not sure of Samuel Martins occupation as he never shows up on the census with his wife after getting married in 1879, she is down as Widowed by the time she remarries in 1891 and she is with her parents in 1881 and 1891.
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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 November 23 06:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone starting to clean it up now and altered most of the mistakes on the documents for future people searching the records
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Re: Eliza Martin's Children, Alfreton Derbyshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 November 23 10:07 GMT (UK) »
His occupation will be shown on the marriage certificate