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Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« on: Friday 24 November 23 04:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello to you all,               

 I really only wanted to tell you of my research and hurdles re my father in law, Richard Williams.   
 He was born 13 October 1923 at the Ballarat Children's Home to Violet Agnes Goodridge. She had been married to 1. George Henry Dowsey (who died in 1919), married  2. Richard Dennett 1931 and he died in 1934.     

There was no father listed at the birth.         
 Hubby did a DNA test  for me to try to trace him.          On the 23 June 1924 Richard was unofficially adopted by Frederick Lancelot Williams and his wife, Victoria Lilly Eliza May Rowett, From Boyeo, Vic.           

The DNA proved unsuccessful in tracing his father, even with the help of 2 search angels.                               It has been a headache trying to follow it all.   

How did Violet (Aggie) know Frederick Lancelot Williams???   Cannot find a connection. I wondered if it was through the war but they were not in the same Battalion.
Violet was from Bendigo and Eaglehawk, so fairly close.
Is Frederick the father????
More questions.

Thanks for your ears!
Merry Christmas
Chris



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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 November 23 07:56 GMT (UK) »
were you aware that Violet was Georges SECOND wife ??
George Henry Dowsey
Born in 1886 - Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia
Deceased in 1919 - Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia, aged 33 years old
 
Parents
Robert John Dowsey 1863-1914
Annie Jane Trewhella 1865-1938
 
Spouses and children
Married in 1906, Hently, Victoria, Australia, to Elizabeth (Bessie) Ann Jelbart 1877-1909 with
F Mary Jane Jelbart 1901-1995
With Agnes Violet Goodridge 1891-1978
 
Siblings
M George Henry Dowsey 1886-1919
F Lylia Dowsey 1888-1922
F Lena Dowsey 1890-1898
F Myrtle Dowsey 1893-1934
F Lena Dowsey 1899
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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 November 23 08:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello garstonite!
No, I wasn't aware of his first marriage and the name Jelbart jumped out at me. That name is in the dna matches!
I am, at the moment, down the paddock feeding horses, so will check that all out on my desktop a bit later.
Thankyou very much....another worm hole!
Chris
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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 November 23 08:42 GMT (UK) »
An obituary for Bessie JELBART, 1909:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/227905862 (in the middle of the column)


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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 November 23 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou maddys52.
So many died young back then.
Our medical treatments are so good now. 
Cheers
Chris
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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 November 23 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Out of interest, the obit says her father was George JELBART, however the Victorian BDM has her birth in 1877, parents William and Nancy.

Other children to the couple seem to be:
1871  Mary Helena
1875  William John (died 1875)
1875  Annie (died 1875)
1877  Bessie Ann
1880  William Henry (died 1968)
1882  Sydney James John  (died 1925)

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Re: Richard James (Dowsey) Williams, Lucindale, South Australia
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 November 23 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Yes, definitely says George.
Hmmm.

More to look at.

Thanks maddys52

Chris
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Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK