Tracing my French ancestors

[mckha489]

There is quite a group with various spellings in Canterbury

[mckha489]

Susanne de Lespaule (indexed as De Lespaulls) baptised 18 August 1680 Spitalfields dau of Pierre & Marie

[mckha489]

So Children I have found to date all baptised Non-conformist /Walloon  London are:-

Elie (male) 1672/3
Pierre 1673/4
Jacob 1675
Guillaume 1676/7
Marie 1678
Susanne 1680
Elizabeth 1684

Which is your ancestor.
Can you please give details of their marriage & family

Have you found a death for wither parent?

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Just to add looks like another daughter
Judith De L'Epaulle d of Pierre and Marie Hares? 1.8.1683.

Ciderdrinker

[farmeroman]

So Children I have found to date all baptised Non-conformist /Walloon  London are:-

Elie (male) 1672/3
Pierre 1673/4
Jacob 1675
Guillaume 1676/7
Marie 1678
Susanne 1680
Elizabeth 1684

Which is your ancestor.
Can you please give details of their marriage & family

Have you found a death for wither parent?

I have carried out extensive research of the de l'Epaule (and numerous other spellings) family from their likely origins in Sedan, Ardennes, France to my great grandmother Eliza Charlotte Shoulder, who was born Shoreditch in 1853.

The French name (épaule=Shoulder) was anglicized to Shoulder in the late 17th and early 18th centuries, especially as they began to move to the C of E for marriages and burials, both versions often being used for individuals at some time during their lives. One good example is Mathieu De l'Espaule (baptised 1677), Matthew D'Shoulder (Marriage 1711) and Matthew Lepaule (burial 1765).

I believe that Mattieu's father Jacob de l'Espaule (de l'Epaule and Lapole at his two marriages and Shoalder [sic] at burial) may have been the brother of Pierre, the (compelling, but not conclusive) evidence of that being that Jacob Delepaule was the godfather of Pierre & Marie's son Jacob and Marie Henro was the godmother of my Jacob & Catherine's son Matthieu.

Jacob's (and possibly Pierre's) parents were Charles de l'Epaule and Rachel Ouberlan/Huberlan, who married in 1642 in Sedan. Jacob was said to be a native of Paris at his 1676 marriage in London. Unfortunately I have not found Pierre & Marie's marrige record.

I agree with your list of the children of Pierre and Marie, and also with ciderdrinker's additional one.

[farmeroman]

There is quite a group with various spellings in Canterbury

Indeed there is. I have listed all of them that I could find, but I have not found much evidence that the Canterbury and London branches of the family were closely related. In fact the only example I found was Salomon De Lespau & Esther Le Keux marrying in Canterbury in 1645 and then moving to London, where they had several children. My list shows that the family were established in Canterbury from at least 1583 while Jacob (and probably Pierre) was born in France in c1655.

[HarryFreeman]

Hmmm My ancestor is Peter LePla and many on ancestry seem to think his parents were Pierre and Mary however Peter was born abt 1656. Perhaps he is a brother of Pierre’s.

[farmeroman]

Hmmm My ancestor is Peter LePla and many on ancestry seem to think his parents were Pierre and Mary however Peter was born abt 1656. Perhaps he is a brother of Pierre’s.

I've seen countless variations of the spelling of De l'Espaule, but Le Pla is not one of them. Is there any evidence that it is (or may be) the same family?