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John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« on: Monday 27 November 23 20:14 GMT (UK) »
I really need some help with this family, as there is a big puzzle. John Johnston and Ann Greer were married Oct 17, 1856 at Woods Chapel, his father William (I believe his parents to be William Johnston and Nancy McMaster).
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sta/
John is a weaver from Drumenagh. They are on the 1901 census, in Ballyronan More, and John is age 64, a laborer who can read and Ann is 62. They have unmarried children John, Matthew, Robert and Sarah.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01stb/
I don't find the family in 1911 but I do find a john Johnston, widower, age 73, farm laborer, living with son Matthew in Ballyronan More and Matthew is married (but I don't think so). John can read.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01stc/
Now we come to my problem. There are many online trees that say Ann died Jan 20, 1904 in Drumenagh. But this death record says her husband was a stone mason. So thinking this is not correct, although I can't find another death record for her. Furthermore the trees say that John remarried in Aug 1904 to Matilda McCready nee Nelson.  John is a widower, farmer,  from Tamlaghduff with father William. Feasible. Matilda has father Samuel.
However, when I find who I think is John and Matilda in 1911, in Tamlaghtduff, John is a farmer who cannot read. Age 80. Matilda age 68.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01ste/
Then I went back to 1901, and  I did find a John Johnston, widower, in Tamlaghtduff, cannot read, living with a daughter Margaret Johnston, not married (Look closely to see the word NOT in the previous column),  and a granddaughter Maggie Bradley, also not married, but born in Scotland. I think this would be the John Johnston who married Matilda Nelson in 1904, though I can't find Maggie's birth in either Ireland or Scotland. Ann Greer and John Johnston did have a daughter Margaret in 1867 and I don't know if she ever married.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01stf/
I think online trees have confused these two families. Then a John from Tamlaght, laborer, widower, died in 1918 in a workhouse in Magherafelt, age 89. Age agrees with 1911 census of Tamlaghtduff so I think this was the husband of Matilda.
I did find the death of a Matilda Johnston in 1916, age 79, in Drummuck, wife of John Johnston, laborer, daughter Bridget Magill present.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sth/
I did find Patrick McGill, wife Bridget in 1911 in Tamlaghtduff. She is age 40.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bellaghy/Tamlaghtduff/607871/
Then I found the marriage of Bridget and Patrick McGill in 1902. She is McCready, father John. This is all adding up that we have found the correct Matilda's death in 1916.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01stj/
then I found the marriage of Matilda Nelson/Neilson to John McCready in 1865. Her father Samuel Nelson, same as when she married John Johnston.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01stk/
But the problem remains. I think these are two different John Johnstons. Can anyone help with this? Can anyone find the death of Ann Johnston nee Greer 1901-1911 and the death of her husband John probably in Ballyronan More after 1911? Maybe they emigrated. Or went to Scotland or  England.
I really need help.
thank you
Peggy



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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 November 23 21:32 GMT (UK) »
John McCready died Mar 29, 1886 in Drummuck, wife Matilda present.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01stm/
But if Matilda did not remarry until 1904, where is she in 1901?
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 December 23 21:04 GMT (UK) »
I have found the marriage of John and Ann’s son Matthew in  Scotland in 1902, so the 1911 census in Ballyronan More with widowed father John, age 73, and married son Matthew, age 39 (he was actually born 1873 ) would be the correct family. This means for sure that the John Johnston, who married Matilda McCready nee Nelson in 1904 is a different John Johnston.
Although I have not found john’s death as yet, I have followed his son Matthew to Scotland and then Canada. I have followed his son Robert to Pittsburgh Pennsylvania where he died in 1963. I have found the marriage of his daughter Sarah to William Marks and his daughter Margaret to a Mr. Cunning.
So I suppose his John could’ve died in Ireland, which I suspect, or in Scotland, or in Canada, or in Pennsylvania.
Peggy
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Is there a writeup or obituary for the death of John Johnston on June 12, 1918? It might be very informative as to the names of his children from his first marriage or Matilda's from her first marriage. We know that Matilda had a daughter Bridget McCready who married Patrick McGill.
We know that John had a daughter Margaret and a granddaughter Maggie Bradley as per the 1901 census, which proves this is a different John Johnston than the one who is still living with his wife Ann nee Greer in 1901, and 4 unmarried children.
Thanks for any help with info on John from Tamlaghtduff.
Peggy
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 17:36 GMT (UK) »
I have found the death of Ann Greer's husband John Johnston on Feb 5, 1933 in Ballyronan. Also, he is buried with Ann at Wood's Chapel.
I have not made any progress on the other John Johnston who was a widower in 1901 in Tamlaghduff and married Matilda McCready in 1904. Also not sure where Tamlaghduff is. If anyone can help with this couple, please do. John died in 1918 in Magherafelt but was from Tamlaghduff.
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 18:12 GMT (UK) »

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Thanks for any help with info on John from Tamlaghtduff.

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Also not sure where Tamlaghduff is.

Tamlaghtduff townland in the civil parish of Ballyscullion.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/ballyscullion/bellaghy/tamlaghtduff/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4836358#map=12/54.8236/-6.5389


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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, KG. This is a great help.
Not so very long ago, I had very little information on John Johnston and Ann Greer, but suddenly things broke loose. I wish the same would happen with the other John.
Peggy
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 December 23 08:07 GMT (UK) »
The last time I found Matthew Johnston was in 1931 on the Hamilton, Ontario census. Perhaps an obituary for his brother Robert who died Apr 20, 1963 in Pittsburgh would reveal further info about Matthew or other siblings.
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Re: John Johnston and Ann Greer, married Oct 17, 1856 Woods
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 23 06:30 GMT (UK) »
I have found the death just now of Margaret Johnston, who is obviously the daughter of John Johnston, of Tamlaghduff who is on the 1901 census with her father John and his granddaughter, Maggie Bailey. I am not sure how this will help unless someone has further information about Margaret and her death. Margaret’s age fits with her age on the 1901 census.
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