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Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« on: Friday 01 December 23 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Back in the 1970s, I acquired a collection of glass plate negatives dating from around 1900, by my estimation. Can't remember where I got them, possibly an auction, but I've carted them around for years without doing anything with them.

There's not much to help identify their original owner except one headstone and some possibly identifiable places and faces - but there are an awful lot of those so I hope someone may get some pictures of their ancestors one day.

I did a cursory search on Ancestry for the Hazelgrove name 4 years ago, but nothing that can positively identify them. Possibly they have a connection with Worthing, maybe Sussex generally.

I've included three, hopefully, but you can view the entire set here:
https://the-golden-fleece.co.uk/temp/EdwardianPhotos/

Sharing them in case anyone spots something connected to their research. If they are of interest, get in touch.
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 December 23 11:45 GMT (UK) »
That's a lovely collection. I don't have any connection to them, but here are a few thoughts anyway.

David and Harriett Hazelgrove both died in the East Preston registration district, so clearly they were in Sussex.

Besides the photo of the car you've posted, there's one of a different car next to the same house, but from another angle. This car has the registration CL-382, which was issued in Norwich some time after 1904 - the use of the hyphen might help to pin it down better. It might also be possible to identify the make and date of both cars.

Also in that picture is a road name - Gordon Road. I haven't managed to locate it, but I'm fairly confident it should be possible.

Some of the photos clearly aren't Sussex - Cornwall, perhaps? The Alps or Norway for some?

If you'd like some help with these, try posting them on the Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition board.
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 December 23 12:05 GMT (UK) »
To answer your question David Hazelgrove came from West Tarring Sussex.
He's variously described as ag. lab. gardener & huntsman.
In 1891 he's receiving Parochial Relief which begs the question who
paid for this expensive headstone?
It's sounds like he was working on an estate so maybe the photos originated
from that family possibly the family of the man in the car.
The lady in the car's style indicates a date of 1908-10.
The lady in photos QP 4 & 5 is the lady seated in photo 2 on here.
She also appears in several others.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 December 23 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jim1 & Arthurk for some useful info and tips.

I have tried to find where that particular Gordon Road may have been but no luck so far, seems there is a definite Sussex connection though.
Hopefully someone with an interest in that name will come forward at some point.
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 December 23 13:33 GMT (UK) »
  He was buried in Worthing.
    What a wonderful set of pictures. Quite a few of them strike me as pictures of the staff rather than family.
Pay, Kent
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 December 23 14:32 GMT (UK) »
To answer your question David Hazelgrove came from West Tarring Sussex.
He's variously described as ag. lab. gardener & huntsman.
In 1891 he's receiving Parochial Relief which begs the question who
paid for this expensive headstone?
It's sounds like he was working on an estate so maybe the photos originated
from that family possibly the family of the man in the car.

I'd noticed the parochial relief as well, though (without looking it up again) I think his widow was of independent means in the 1901 census.

The texts on the memorial might hint at them being ag labs, but perhaps in 1891, aged about 79, David had still been doing light work but that was the point at which he'd become unable.

Circumstantially it seems possible that his former employer paid for the stone and provided a pension for his widow  - it's the sort of thing that good employers might do (noblesse oblige etc). One of my ancestors died while in service, leaving a wife and 3 young children; he has a very complimentary gravestone, and the family story is that the employer supported the family for many years afterwards.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 December 23 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Photo no. HP-02 in your collection showing the house and car on Gordon Road is 99 Gordon Road, Carshalton (on the corner of Glebe Road).

Have a look at the Streetview link below.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sts/
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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 December 23 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Great find, Jool  :) :) :)
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Edwardian Photo Collection - name Hazelgrove?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 December 23 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Photo no. HP-02 in your collection showing the house and car on Gordon Road is 99 Gordon Road, Carshalton (on the corner of Glebe Road).

Have a look at the Streetview link below.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sts/

Excellent Jool - well done for finding that!
Hammans and related spellings, Poitevin, Elliot, Garrett, Brion