John Lloyd - Clockmaker of Nantwich

[Tall Al]

Hi,

John was my 5th Gt Grandfather and if possible am trying to find out more about his parents.

If you google his name and occupation it refers to Nantwich Clockmakers (particularly Kitchen and Lloyd) showing John's dates as 1761-1804.

However John married in 1765 (Cheshire Parish Database Records) to Elizabeth Turner (both shown as residents of Nantwich Parish) so the birth date of 1761 must be incorrect. Elizabeth was born 1739 in nearby Wybunbury. His death in 1804 (same database) shows does not show his age unfortunately.

I expect that he was born c1740 but would appreciate any thoughts?

John and Elizabeth had at least 7 children between 1767 and 1783 - John, Samuel, Ann, Catherine, James. Joseph, and Thomas.

Thanks for looking.

Alan

[BumbleB]

I'm not very sure that 1761 refers to his year of birth, but rather the year when he became a clockmaker. 

[rosie99]

I agree with BB that those dates refer to when he was a Clockmaker

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Ah thanks - never thought of that.

Now I have to find his birth records (if there are any!) around 1740 ish

Alan

[garstonite]

familysearch.org has the marriage

Name   John Lloyd
Sex   Male
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   11 Sep 1765
Event Place   , Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name   Elizabeth Turner

BUT it also states
Possible Family Tree Match
John Lloyd
Male
1741–Deceased
 •
KCND-T3M

Birth:abt 1741
Nantwich, Cheshire, Eng.
can someone smarter than me decipher KCND-T3M - or is that the code for the tree owner ??

[BumbleB]

Not 100% but I think that the KCND-T3M does indicate a Family Search tree owner.

[garden genie]

 Just to mention that Nantwich is close enough to Wales that any family with a Welsh name like Lloyd may be coming and going across the border. My ancestress Ann Lloyd married near Nantwich but she was born in Ruabon. Fortunately she had her first child there too and he was recent enough to be in censuses!

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Thank you for the replies. I have seen trees with the 1741 birth but cannot see any concrete evidence to support this assumption. I was looking for a possible naming pattern (Elizabeth's father was John Turner) and one son was named John but ...

Nothing I can see in Nantwich specifically, and the nearest is in Chester (St Marys) - 13 July 1740 John son of William and Mary Lloyde - but fathers occupation was a Wet Glover not a Clockmaker. - so here again probably not worth pursuing.

Some trees have John's father as John (1716) and there are births of twins John and Thomas in 1716 at Nantwich but both of the twins died the same year so that is a non-starter.

If you have any other thoughts would be happy to hear them.

Alan

[Raybistre]

KCND-T3M refers to the code of an entry in familysearch. It refers to the person in the entry.
An example is the code for an ancestor of mine, Richard Bithell (1796-1862), is L76H-FTF.
Ray