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ellin hughes burial
« on: Sunday 03 December 23 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Is there anymore information on this burial, Ellin Hughes aged 52yrs old buried 20th july 1847 st twrog Llandwrog

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Re: ellin Hughes burial
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 December 23 19:17 GMT (UK) »
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Is there anymore information on this burial, Ellin Hughes

Where did you get the date from?  Which is she - Jones or Hughes?
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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 December 23 19:22 GMT (UK) »
sorry hughes - freereg

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 December 23 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Burial register entry is on Ancestry - no other info apart from an unreadable address.

Here's the link

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 December 23 19:44 GMT (UK) »
I think the address is "Pen rallt"

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 December 23 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Spotted this "Pen-yr-allt" https://maps.nls.uk/view/101606613#zoom=6&lat=1702&lon=7162&layers=BTin the area

Was Ellin at "Dryll Coch" on the '41 Census.

Added - 2nd "Pen-yr-allt"
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101606613#zoom=6&lat=3686&lon=7289&layers=BT

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 December 23 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Although Dryll Coch is not named on the Tithe map, if you locate it between the named houses on the 1841 census, it would be in the vicinity of Tryfan Bach and Coedybrain and Terfyn. Tryfan Bach is no. 2 on map.
https://places.library.wales/search/53.093/-4.258/16?alt=&page=1&refine=&query=TRYFAN%20BACH&order=desc&sort=score&rows=100&parish_facet%5B%5D=Llandwrog&leaflet-base-layers_94=on

On google maps Dryll coch is apparently here: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Llandwrog,+Caernarfon/Rhostryfan,+Caernarfon+LL54+7NG/@53.0938038,-4.2627911,17z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x4865a4ea3ab009f9:0x3649581f20c7ec0b!2m2!1d-4.3137921!2d53.0790791!1m5!1m1!1s0x4865a436a9770949:0xf0fb08d0e9cfc575!2m2!1d-4.260444!2d53.0936692!3e2?entry=ttu

I think Pen yr Allt is more likely to be the name rather than Penrallt, and there are other burials of people from Penrallt including a John Williams of Penrallt 29 Jul 1843 aged 50.


There's a baptism of an Ellin Hughes at Llanwnda  3 sep 1797 daughter of Evan and Margaret of Llanwnda.

The Margaret Hughes on the 1841 Census at Dryll Goch dies in 1845 and is buried at Llandwrog aged 94 on jul 19th. (Born 1751)

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 December 23 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Agreed - "Pen rallt" in the burial register = "Pen-yr-allt" - a common abbreviation.

I'd checked the NLS map for any of the addresses appearing on the '41 Census around "Dryll Coch" - ie. Tyn y ffynon, Coed y brain, ? house, Tryfan Bach, Tyn y Rhos Tryfan, Dryll Coch, Tyn groeslon, Bryncoch, Cefn Terfyn, Terfyn. Pinpointed the likely locale but not Dryll Coch itself. Will check the google location.

Had also drawn a blank on the Tithe maps for Dryll Coch

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Re: ellin hughes burial
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 December 23 13:55 GMT (UK) »
There is the possibility however that Penallt is in act Benallt - listed on the 1861 census, in the vicinity of Bethesda Bach https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15573541:8768

see map https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.3&lat=53.09063&lon=-4.29015&layers=6&b=1&marker=53.089920,-4.287830