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*VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« on: Tuesday 05 December 23 12:17 GMT (UK) »
*VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES. Why so few births when 1258 DEATH results recorded mostly in the period 1969-1995?

Births Jun 1916   (>99%)
ROWBERRY    Wilfred Verdun    TANSER    Worcester    6c   244

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But results for DEATHS *VERDUN for period 1916-1920 shows 1258 results.
What might be an explanation for this disparity?
Perhaps an individual trancriber at FreeBMD has done specific research for *VERDUN?

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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 12:35 GMT (UK) »
The old printed indexes that FreeBMD use do not show middles names, only initials, so you will find births indexed with just a 'V'.  Have a look at the scan attached to your indexed birth.  They are updating their indexes to include the full middle names.  This may take awhile. 

Debra  :)

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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry if this is not relevant but after the battle of Verdun ,many children were given Verdun as a middle name .
Not heard of any named as eg— John The Somme Smith nor  John Passendale Smith ——-.
Equally important  battles.
Verdun was during The 1914-18 war.
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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 13:15 GMT (UK) »
However, look at the number of births registered in 1900 where Mafeking is included as a forename - male and female!!  8)
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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 14:01 GMT (UK) »
One of my uncles was called Verdun, as his first name. Often misheard or misunderstood as Vernon.
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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 20:37 GMT (UK) »
The old printed indexes that FreeBMD use do not show middles names, only initials, so you will find births indexed with just a 'V'.  Have a look at the scan attached to your indexed birth.  They are updating their indexes to include the full middle names.  This may take awhile. 

Debra  :)

Debra,  thank you so much for this explanation.  I shall look forward to the progress as middle names are so valuable even if this 'Verdun' does not give clues to the ancestors!

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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry if this is not relevant but after the battle of Verdun ,many children were given Verdun as a middle name .
Not heard of any named as eg— John The Somme Smith nor  John Passendale Smith ——-.
Equally important  battles.
Verdun was during The 1914-18 war.
Viktoria.

Viktoria,
Mafaking and Mafakin have a small representation!
But LADYSMITH was very popular.

The double-barrelled forename!
Deaths Dec 1856   (>99%)
LLOYD    Alma Balaclava        Witney    3a   350

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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 December 23 22:24 GMT (UK) »
So two Crimean War battles there, and a style of Winter hat ,The Balaclava!

Thanks.Viktoria.

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Re: *VERDUN AS A MIDDLE NAME AT FREEBMD SEARCHES.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 March 24 14:45 GMT (UK) »
This sparked my interest as a cousin of mine had Verdun as middle name, not sure if the other Children had but I remember as she only lived to be 3 years old. I remember the tiny coffin was in the house prior to her burial. I was lifted up and asked to kiss her forehead, she looked like a doll dressed in a lovely white gown.
The only time that I have come across this name was "The Battle of Verdun" in 1916.

Surname    First name(s)    Mother    District    Vol    Page
Births Dec 1950   (>99%)
Hallett    Angela V Capes    Hull    2a   379     Scan available - click to view

Added I have just had a look at my other cousins' births and they don't have that middle name. I have just read Victoria's post and she too mentions the Battle,
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