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Mary ann pain/ Altree
« on: Tuesday 05 December 23 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi can anyone help me research a mary ann pain  married 1 St a William altree 1823 in the Bristol area of Gloucestershire   unfortunately William died not long after they married, 

She then married again ad mary ann altree in Bristol District a Thomas Southard in 1828

They moved to live in the Whitchurch herefordshire unfortunately she died 1843

I am trying to find mary ann's parents please

Any information welcome 😊

Best wishes Phil

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 12:57 GMT (UK) »
If the 1841 is correct, this is the nearest I can find 5 miles from Bristol. (Freereg)

Mary Anne PAIN   Birth 11 Apr 1796   Baptism 8 May 1796      

Long Ashton: All Saints: Somerset Other Transcript

Parents John & Sarah
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

That's correct

Thanks for replying

And for your help

Regards Phil


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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 December 23 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

Seems that the Mary ann pain you found b in long Ashton Somerset May be the incorrect on

There is 16 family trees 🌳 with the person who have researched the Same family  ?? From long Ashton

Seems if that particular person married in 1819 a Joseph Fisher  and had 8 children together

The one I have in my family was b 1800 ??

Married in Bristol Gloucestershire 1823 a altree ( he could have died before 1828 )

Because a mary ann altree married again in Bristol Gloucestershire 1828 a Thomas Southard 

They moved to Whitchurch herefordshire where they had further children she unfortunately died in 1843 monmouthshire

Best wishes Phil

Back to the drawing board  ??

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 December 23 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Mary Ann was noted as 43 on the death registration in 1843, so providing that and the census are both correct 1800 seems to be the year of birth. I do not see the marriage on family search or freereg, did the original record or census give a clue to County of birth?
Did Mary Ann & William have any children?

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 December 23 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Mary ann pain m in Bristol Gloucestershire 1820

They had a child named William Turnberry altree b 1825 ???

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 December 23 11:09 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is on family search but you originally posted 1823.
I note both parish records are on Ancestry and I guess your tree, have you checked the original records and Mary Ann’s death registration?
 
Mary Ann Pain   Marriage 9 October 1820 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Spouse William Altree

William Turnpenny Altree   Christening 30 July 1826 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Parents William Turnpenny Altree, Mary Ann

Thomas Southard    Marriage 9 November 1828 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Spouse Mary Ann A.

The way things appear you only have the 1841 census, which was rounded down, so born between 1797 - 1801, the baptism may have been later, if there was one and on the death registration, the age is not always reliable it depends who reported the death.

Sorry I cannot help.

Regards Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 December 23 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ever so much Colin

I will post something later today

Best wishes Phil

Have a lovely Xmas 😍