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South Australian birth certificates.
« on: Tuesday 05 December 23 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone
Is anyone aware if a child is stillborn, the fact is noted on a South Australian birth certificate?  I have a birth in South Australia (Belalie) in 1874 but no one can trace a death record for the child or a marriage.  I understand that deaths might not always be recorded, especially for the location cited.  I don't want to apply for the birth certificate if it doesn't answer my conundrum?
Many thanks for any insights.
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Stuart McDonald, Western Australia.

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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 00:33 GMT (UK) »
I don't know whether it would have been recorded on the birth certificate. Have you tried looking for a birth announcement - they will usually say "stillborn" or similar.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/

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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried looking for a birth announcement - they will usually say "stillborn" or similar.

Thank you....in an ideal world,  She was one of 15 children and paid announcements were an unaffordable luxury.  Nice thought, though ;D

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 00:46 GMT (UK) »
I should have said that I know stillborn is recorded on birth certificates now (and no death certificate issued), however I don't know if that was the case in 1874. I suspect it probably was.

Would you like to give us the name of the child, someone may be able to find something.  :D

Modified to add:
Perhaps you may find something here?
https://www.jaunay.com/stillbirths.html


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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 01:57 GMT (UK) »

Would you like to give us the name of the child, someone may be able to find something.  :D

Hi Maddy

I'm never one to turn down an offer!!!

The child is Catherine McDonald and was born 28 May 1874 at presumably Belalie.  She was child of Hugh McDonald & Ruth Ann, nee Chatfield (not all of their 15 children's births were registered).  Hugh worked at Canowie Station, the station cemetery records are not complete or accessible.  His death certificate lists 15 children, with 4 daughters deceased at his death.  I can account for 3 of them, Mary, Harriet and Ada (sometimes recorded as Eda).

I am not expecting much, the name McDonald as sometimes mis-recorded
But I do really appreciate your offer ;D

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Stuart

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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 06:11 GMT (UK) »
I'm assuming this is Hugh's death notice in 1908:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/208623276

"leaving nine sons and two daughters" - I guess the 4 daughters deceased are stated on his death certificate?

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 December 23 07:50 GMT (UK) »
Yes Maddy, that is he.  The death certificate doesn't name the children, just nine sons living, 2 daughters living and 4 daughters deceased.  The same when his widow passed in 1930, the 4 deceased daughters' births were registered and three of their deaths were, just not Catherine.  I ponder a stillbirth for Catherine as Ada/Eda died aged 3 months.
I appreciate your eyes.
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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 December 23 11:55 GMT (UK) »
I am under the impression that births could not be registered for stillborn babies in South Australia in the 19th century.
I've never researched that but here is a link that seems to confirm it (search on "still" within the page) https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/finding-information/discover-our-collection/registration-of-life-events/registration-of-life-events
Added later: OTOH I have seen birth and death registrations for infants who lived only an hour.

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Re: South Australian birth certificates.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 December 23 22:13 GMT (UK) »
I am under the impression that births could not be registered for stillborn babies in South Australia in the 19th century.
Thanks for the link, which suggests stillbirths weren't recorded pre-1936, but the word used was "possible after 1936", which may not preclude registrations pre-1936.  Maybe.