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Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« on: Thursday 07 December 23 03:05 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I'm looking for information about Reinhold Skowronnek whom Ancestry.com shows as being born in 1820 in Hennweiler, Bad Kreuznach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany and is the father of Aldeburt Frederick Skowronnek (1844-1926) and William Julius Hermann Skowronnek (1847-1888). Both sons immigrated to London.

I'd like to confirm those details and find any other information concerning the family in Germany (Prussia?), such as where the sons were born and when they immigrated.

Thanks

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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 December 23 09:53 GMT (UK) »
The only one I can find as a possible for Reinholds parents are these 2 ???   no other Skowronnek around that time frame


Gottlob Skowronnek)


Born about 1785 - Tatzen,Preußen,Deutschland,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married about 1820 to Maria Salamon 1789-

Maria Salamon
 Born January 26, 1789 - Karbowsken,Landkreis Lyck,Preußen,Deutschland,Karbowskie,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married September 7, 1817 to Jacob Wilk ca 1779-
Married about 1820 to Gottlob Skowronnek ca 1785-
 

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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 December 23 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Not having much luck on this one, but Albert/Adalbert gives birthplace as Prussia on one English census, which would have included Rheinland.
 There do not seem to be any naturalization papers for either son in the National archives. Hennweiler records are not digitised on Archion yet. The ones on familysearch are too early and only available to view at their centres.

 I also found no mention in the online German newspaper archives at


https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper?lang=en


Interestingly,  using the more usual spelling of Skowronek, looking at a surname distribution map of Germany there is a large group in the western state of Nordrhein-Westfalen, although the surname is of Polish origin.

https://www.kartezumnamen.eu/en/index.php?sur=SKOWRONEK&s=Search

Looking at a distribution map for Poland it is concentrated in the Voivodeships of Silesia (śląskie ) and to a lesser extent in Lower Poland(małopolskie)and Opole(opolskie).

https://www.mapanazwisk.eu/en/index.php?sur=SKOWRONEK&s=Search

Using Gedbas, the majority of entries are from Ost Prussia/ Poland/Silesia

https://meta.genealogy.net/search



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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 December 23 05:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Fiddlerslass for all of your efforts and the interesting links.

Yes, I noticed that Albert gave his place of birth as either "Prussia" or "Germany" on different censuses.  They also seem to use both spellings of "Skowron(n)ek". 

Not having much luck on this one, but Albert/Adalbert gives birthplace as Prussia on one English census, which would have included Rheinland.
 There do not seem to be any naturalization papers for either son in the National archives. Hennweiler records are not digitised on Archion yet. The ones on familysearch are too early and only available to view at their centres.

 I also found no mention in the online German newspaper archives at


https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper?lang=en


Interestingly,  using the more usual spelling of Skowronek, looking at a surname distribution map of Germany there is a large group in the western state of Nordrhein-Westfalen, although the surname is of Polish origin.

https://www.kartezumnamen.eu/en/index.php?sur=SKOWRONEK&s=Search

Looking at a distribution map for Poland it is concentrated in the Voivodeships of Silesia (śląskie ) and to a lesser extent in Lower Poland(małopolskie)and Opole(opolskie).

https://www.mapanazwisk.eu/en/index.php?sur=SKOWRONEK&s=Search

Using Gedbas, the majority of entries are from Ost Prussia/ Poland/Silesia

https://meta.genealogy.net/search


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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 December 23 05:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that information Garstonite

Can you tell me the source of those references?

Also did you happen to see any other information re Reinhold's spouse or other family members?

Cheers  8)



The only one I can find as a possible for Reinholds parents are these 2 ???   no other Skowronnek around that time frame


Gottlob Skowronnek)


Born about 1785 - Tatzen,Preußen,Deutschland,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married about 1820 to Maria Salamon 1789-

Maria Salamon
 Born January 26, 1789 - Karbowsken,Landkreis Lyck,Preußen,Deutschland,Karbowskie,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married September 7, 1817 to Jacob Wilk ca 1779-
Married about 1820 to Gottlob Skowronnek ca 1785-

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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 December 23 08:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that information Garstonite

Can you tell me the source of those references?

Also did you happen to see any other information re Reinhold's spouse or other family members?

Cheers  8)



The only one I can find as a possible for Reinholds parents are these 2 ???   no other Skowronnek around that time frame


Gottlob Skowronnek)


Born about 1785 - Tatzen,Preußen,Deutschland,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married about 1820 to Maria Salamon 1789-

Maria Salamon
 Born January 26, 1789 - Karbowsken,Landkreis Lyck,Preußen,Deutschland,Karbowskie,D
Deceased
 
Spouses
Married September 7, 1817 to Jacob Wilk ca 1779-
Married about 1820 to Gottlob Skowronnek ca 1785-


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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 December 23 08:28 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Reinhold Skowronnek b. 1820 Germany
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 December 23 09:02 GMT (UK) »
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