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Re: Any Ideas on date and make of car please!
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 07 December 23 16:57 GMT (UK) »
The location might be Leeds city centre. There was a Brunswick Hotel on Vicar Lane - it's more or less dead centre on this map from 1891:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/229947264

And here's a picture:

https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/94266

Morley might work too - here are a map and picture:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/237469144 - towards the right on Brunswick Street (curly, goes left to right)

https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/107674

In a modern street view it's a red brick building with grey paintwork, but note the entry down the side with stone setts, as in the photo. (Sorry - when I copy a link from Google street view it's just coming up as a map, so there doesn't seem much point.)

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Another photo - https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/117773

Great photo of The Brunswick Arthur, thanks for taking the time.
Carol
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Re: Any Ideas on date and make of car please!
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 07 December 23 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Changing my mind again - there are adverts in the Leeds Mercury around 1911-12 (maybe more) for a firm operating taxi cabs from Brunswick Garage, Camp Road, Leeds. And a report in the 29 Oct 1912 edition (p.3) of a pair of crooks trying to sell stolen jewellery to the landlord of the Brunswick Hotel, Camp Road.

More to follow if I find it.


Great stuff Arthur....I really appreciate your help.
Carol
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« Reply #20 on: Friday 08 December 23 14:26 GMT (UK) »
OK, here's a bit more on the Brunswick Hotel in Camp Road, Leeds.

In the 1911 census the landlord is a Herbert Hollings - his own writing is virtually indecipherable, and this is taken from the cover page. The address on the cover is 24 Brunswick Terrace, Camp Road, but (as far as I can make out) on the form he gives his address as Brunswick Hotel.

I've now found this on a Leeds street map - in the middle here:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19.3&lat=53.80271&lon=-1.54130&layers=117746211&b=9

So if the photo was taken here, I suspect the garage would have been round the back on Jacob Street. Unfortunately the Leodis site doesn't seem to have any pictures of Jacob Street that would help.

It does have a number of pictures of Brunswick Terrace, but I couldn't see one with the hotel. The best I could do was this one at the corner with Camp Road, and I think the hotel would have been just off to the left:

https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/75944
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 December 23 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Looking at old newspaper mentions:
There was a Brunswick garage, Bridge Street, Bridlington, around the corner from a Brunswick hotel.
There was a Brunswick garage in Cross Belgrave Street Leeds - don't know about proximity to a Brunmswick hotel.
Brunswick garage also in Siddals' Road, Derby.
Brunswick garage in Camp Road. Leeds, also near a Brunswick Hotel

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Re: Any Ideas on date and make of car please!
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 December 23 10:54 GMT (UK) »
OK, here's a bit more on the Brunswick Hotel in Camp Road, Leeds.

In the 1911 census the landlord is a Herbert Hollings - his own writing is virtually indecipherable, and this is taken from the cover page. The address on the cover is 24 Brunswick Terrace, Camp Road, but (as far as I can make out) on the form he gives his address as Brunswick Hotel.

I've now found this on a Leeds street map - in the middle here:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19.3&lat=53.80271&lon=-1.54130&layers=117746211&b=9

So if the photo was taken here, I suspect the garage would have been round the back on Jacob Street. Unfortunately the Leodis site doesn't seem to have any pictures of Jacob Street that would help.

It does have a number of pictures of Brunswick Terrace, but I couldn't see one with the hotel. The best I could do was this one at the corner with Camp Road, and I think the hotel would have been just off to the left:

https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/75944


Thanks for your interest and your input Arthur, I appreciate you taking the time to look.
Carol
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Re: Any Ideas on date and make of car please!
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 December 23 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Looking at old newspaper mentions:
There was a Brunswick garage, Bridge Street, Bridlington, around the corner from a Brunswick hotel.




It looks like you have solved it Dublin, The postcard was bought in Hull on the East Yorkshire coast so Bridlington fits.  :)

Thank you for that, well done.
Carol
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 December 23 11:49 GMT (UK) »
It looks like you have solved it Dublin, The postcard was bought in Hull on the East Yorkshire coast so Bridlington fits.  :)

I can't deny that Bridlington is a possibility, but remember that the car has a Leeds registration plate, and the blackened brickwork might fit Leeds better than Bridlington. And people do/did go from Leeds to Hull and vice versa, even if rather reluctantly.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 December 23 12:51 GMT (UK) »
This has  been really interesting.  LM
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 December 23 13:10 GMT (UK) »
It looks like you have solved it Dublin, The postcard was bought in Hull on the East Yorkshire coast so Bridlington fits.  :)

I can't deny that Bridlington is a possibility, but remember that the car has a Leeds registration plate, and the blackened brickwork might fit Leeds better than Bridlington. And people do/did go from Leeds to Hull and vice versa, even if rather reluctantly.


Thanks for that Arthur, you make a valid point, I will keep an open mind.
Carol
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