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Soldier I D Please
« on: Thursday 07 December 23 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Soldier on the Right in the Photo is meant to be 22155 Harry Lloyd of the King's Liverpool Pals ?



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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 December 23 17:26 GMT (UK) »
This is meant to be him with his Parents in 1918 after Hospital Wounded

Is it same Person ?

Same Regt ?

His Medal Cards suggest he was in the Royal Engineers Overseas when injured and Demobbed 1919

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 December 23 17:33 GMT (UK) »
The Family Claim this Photo is his Wedding in September 1918 with him with his Pals Cap Badge to prove its him identified.
But if the Pals were Disbanded in February 1918 and he was Transferred to the Royal Engineers as WR 347603 would he still have a Pals Cap Badge on Marriage 6 months later in September 1918 ?

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 December 23 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Given all his badges match in the second and third pictures and the close physical similarity, it seems to be the same person.

He clearly has a ring (wedding band ?) on the middle photo. And by the look of it in the wedding photo, though it is a bit hard to be certain. That suggests the photo with his parents was after his wedding.

Are they both the same person as in the first, again, there is a close physical similarity.

If not, who else could it be ? A sibling ? Otherwise, why would the family have the photos ?

As to the uniform date discrepancy, are the family certain of the date of the marriage ? Do they know the date he was wounded ? Those details might help confirm the date order of the photos.

Hope that's of some help.

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 December 23 18:50 GMT (UK) »
I think certainly the same man in photos 2 and 3. Most probably the same man in photo 1. Its the ears.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 December 23 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your Input.

He appears to have had Gun Shot Wound in March 1918

The Family have Downloaded the Marriage Banns for the last 3 Weekends of August 1918 so presume Marriage was September 1918 which fits the GRO Index ref for September Quarter 1918

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 December 23 20:15 GMT (UK) »
If you look at the next page of the Service Record you posted, it states, "Compulsorily Transferred to RE. IH&D Sandwich 21/9/18".

I might have the 'IH&D' wrong but it seems that until 20/9/18 he was presumably still cap-badged to the KLR - especially if he was recovering in the UK from his injuries and so his cap-badge would have been less of an issue for anybody. So, if he was married in Sep 1918 (and before the 21st), I assume his uniform was still that of the KLR.
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 December 23 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant Logic !
That explains the Marriage and Pals Cap Badge in early September 1918
I'm happy all my worries have now been solved by the Genies here.
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