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Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« on: Friday 08 December 23 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Possibly not an answer to this !!!
If it didn’t happen how would we know but I’ll ask anyway !
How likely might it have been for a female child not to be baptised in 1821 when she was born ?
Her name is Louisa Elizabeth Maslin.
Her place of birth is given as Covent Garden London
In later life she lives in Devizes with an Aunt and then a sister and later moves to Havelock Road in Hackney. She then returns to Devizes and lives in Potterne before living with her daughter and family outside Newbury.
She inherited money and regularly wrote to her solicitors for her monthly sum.
Aged 13 years she was living in Yorkshire with her Aunt and her husband who was listed as a gentleman . She inherited the money from him.
When she marries in 1846 in Devizes it is to John Perry. She states her father’s name as George.
She has one daughter known Mary Sarah Sissons Perry who marries John Biggs Banks of Potterne. They marry in Marlborough.
I have a huge amount of detail on Louisa’s life due to information lodged at Chippenham records office but have been unable to find out anything remotely to do with her birth. As well as searching the Covent Garden area that she says she is born in ,I’ve expanded the area to other parts of London. I’ve also searched Rotherhithe as that is where her Aunt Sarah marries.
I am the second generation searching. The search began in 1946 !
I’m sorry if you’ve seen this post before but I’ve been looking for at least fifteen years,putting it down and then going back to it.
Where was Louisa Elizabeth Maslin born ?
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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 23 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Where is she in 1841 and what are the names of her aunt and uncle?

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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 23 13:25 GMT (UK) »
1851 she is with Sister Sarah Maslen born c 1832 London, Middlesex
Living in Devizes.

I can see a George Maslen in Middlsex 1841 but he is a Blacksmith
Has a Daug Sarah born c 1831 (Masler on Anc.)

1851 George is born c 1805 Devizes, Wiltshire.
Living in Shoreditch

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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 23 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Are the witnesses to her marriage relations - James Chandler and Caroline Thorpe ?

It was also by license not banns so has the license survived?


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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 23 13:26 GMT (UK) »
While a vast majority of people were baptised, some were never baptised, or they may have been baptised at a non conformist chapel, or NC meeting house. Or in a workhouse. It can be more tricky trying to find non conformist records or workhouse baptisms.

I see Louisa's marriage in 1846 lists her father George's occupation as grocer.

I have such a case with an ancestor born in about 1764, other documents show who his parents are and siblings. Yet I cannot for the life of me find a baptism record for the said ancestor. And as Suffolk 1754-1813 baptisms are on CD I still cannot find his baptism. He had a sister whose baptism is unaccounted for yet they elder 2 are accounted for. They did move around Suffolk and Norfolk due to being millers so he may have been baptised elsewhere, maybe even outside Norfolk or Suffolk.

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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
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SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 23 14:59 GMT (UK) »
So Louisa and John separated ?

He died 11 September 1875 -Probate to Mary Sarah Sissons Perry, spinster daughter and only next of kin.

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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 23 15:23 GMT (UK) »
John Perry left Louisa in Devizes. He’d inherited a small amount of money and took off to London. He turns up in the 1851 census as a boarder in Soho. Later,in paperwork and census records info appears about Matilda Imison. She was about sixteen and he had two more daughters with her. When he decides to return to his wife Louisa he brings the two illegitimate girls. He even gets Louisa to write to her solicitor and ask for more money for their education ! From what I can gather that was turned down as solicitors wrote to each other asking where had these girls appeared from !!
I’ve tracked the girls lives too….another interesting story with one,the other marries and lives in Reading.

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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 23 15:25 GMT (UK) »
There are lots of legal papers proving that Mary Sarah Sissons Perry is the only legitimate heir.
The two illegitimate girls are ruled out and there is also reference much earlier to a William John Perry Neate Perry ! Who may have been an illegitimate son.

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Re: Baptisms / Christening around 1820
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 23 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Entire generations of my Knighton family were not baptised because they were non-conformists. Actually, that's not quite correct - some of them did get baptised, but only as adults.

It's made it very difficult to trace some individuals because I don't have specific birth years for them, only approximate ages. Some family members are only known because they were mentioned in wills.
Knighton in Huntingdonshire and Northamptonshire
Tweedie in Lanarkshire and Co. Down
Rodgers in Durham and Co. Monaghan
McMillan in Lanarkshire and Argyllshire