Author Topic: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales  (Read 635 times)

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Looking for the first wife of Williams Williams abt 1793 (Farmer) … Mother to Eleazer Willams 1835 (William Eleazear Williams) She must have died before 1842 

Williams Williams (Farmer) Married Hannah Jones 23 Feb 1842 Carmarthenshire, Wales and is the biological mother to Thomas Williams 1843 and Elianor Williams 1849. I Am DNA connected to Thomas and Elianor’s descendants via William Williams but not through Hannah.

Hoping the information below helps.

Any Help will be greatly apricated!
Bidr


1851 Census  HO107/2483/98 p 19 Pencarreg
Eleazer Willams aged 16 b Pencareg, Carmarthenshire
(Son of William and Hannah WIlliams)

1861 Census RG9/4098/30 p 17 Llangyfelach, Glamorgan
William E Williams age 25 Head b Carmarthenshire
Margaret Williams wife

1881 Census RG11/5349/52 p38 Rhyndwyclydach Glamorgan
Eliazer Williams 45 Head Coal Inspector Mine Serv b Carmarthenshire
Margt. Williams wife

1891 Census RG12/4469/84 p35 Clydach
Eliazer Williams 35 Head
Margaret Williams wife


1901 RG13/5066/50 p35 Clydach
Elizear Williams 65 Head b Carmarthen
Margaret Williams wife 60
John Williams   27
Daniel Williams   20
Maggie Griffiths   17
Willie Williams   14



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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencareg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 23 17:00 GMT (UK) »
1841 transcribed as Epasa Williams aged 6.  Only child - father William is 46 - no wife
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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencareg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 23 17:26 GMT (UK) »
1841 transcribed as Epasa Williams aged 6.  Only child - father William is 46 - no wife

Thank you for searching!

On that Census the father is listed as a Tailor ?  On Eleazer's wedding cert and other census' his father is listed as a farmer and he is listed as a farmers son.

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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencareg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 23 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Yes - I noticed that & thought it was an odd switch in occupations given Williams age.

In 1841 William is 46 & in 1851 he is 58 so the link is there.  Unfortunately - can't find any other 1841 entry that fits nor a baptismal record
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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 23 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Could his occupation be Sailor? Rather than Tailor.
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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 23 20:02 GMT (UK) »
address in 1841 is the same as that on the 1842 marriage entry.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 23 20:45 GMT (UK) »
address in 1841 is the same as that on the 1842 marriage entry.

Is this the marriage entry?

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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 23 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I would say it's the same address as well, thank you!

Still trying to work out what the address says, lol


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Re: Looking for the mother of Eleazer Willams Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Wales
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 23 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Closest I can get is Glanyrafon?
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