Eleanor Frances Butler, née Greene (1848 - unknown)

[RW1]

Hello

I should be very grateful to find out what happened after 1911 to Eleanor Frances Butler, née Greene - baptised on 30 July 1848 (birthdate given as 4 July 1848) at St Stephens, Camden Town, Middlesex.  Her parents were Charles (a newspaper reporter and later clerk to the St Pancras Burial Board) and Emily Greene of King Street.  Emily died in 1861 and Charles in 1888.  Eleanor Frances married Charles Butler in 1881 (she is "my daughter Eleanor Frances Butler" in her father's will of 1888) and they had two children - Constance (who died young) and Charles Jr.  Eleanor was noted as widowed (by 1891) and is shown (as Ellen) in Islington with Charles Jr and Constance on the Census of 1891 (21 Durham Road); and with Charles Jr in 1901 (245 Tufnell Park Road) and 1911 (44 Junction Road).  In 1911, Charles is 22 and an unmarried Electric Engineer; Eleanor is a Monthly Nurse.

Any information would be much appreciated.
Thank you.

[amondg]

She married George Butler 1881 registered Hackney.

There are several articles in newspapers if I have the correct person.

Dundee Courier 2 April 1884  (paraphrased)
Inquest into the death of Captain George Butler, quarter master of the 17th North Middlesex Rifle Volunteers. At University College Hospital London  Mrs. Eleanor Frances Butler the widow, deposed that her husband kept a pet monkey.......
It bit him he had the wound dressed, it got infected he died of blood poisoning accelerated by severe diabetes.

[RW1]

Interesting. Their daughter, Constance, was born in 1886, so could be a coincidence with the names?

[amondg]

If you use FreeBMD
Choose marriages put in Butler for the surname and Greene for the spouse the only entry that  comes up is for George Butler to Eleanor Frances Greene. 1881.

You can get a copy of Constance birth certificate for £2.50 (PDF) and see who is named for the father.

[Milliepede]

Birth registration for Constance 1886 has the middle name Lofting if that means anything.

Charles was born later than that in 1889. 

[Milliepede]

1911 gives conflicting information about children but has been crossed through.

Also her age is 9 years younger than someone born 1848 so quite confusing to follow  

[RW1]

If you use FreeBMD
Choose marriages put in Butler for the surname and Greene for the spouse the only entry that  comes up is for George Butler to Eleanor Frances Greene. 1881.

You can get a copy of Constance birth certificate for £2.50 (PDF) and see who is named for the father.

Oh my!  I thought this Greene family had given up all its stories and here we go again.  Yes, Constance Lofting (Greene/Butler) was born on 18 December 1885 at 378 York Road, Islington - father: blank - mother: Eleanor Frances Butler, formerly Greene.

The informant was J Thompson of 378 York Road (I don't know who this is but that is the address of Eleanor's half-brother, Ernest Charles Greene).

So Charles Butler Sr was not Constance's father.  And presumably I will find something similar with Charles Jr.

Thank you so much for the newspaper reference - I wouldn't have thought the children's birth certificates were so significant without your suggestion.

[amondg]

Find My Past has the 1921 census, it has a free index.

ADDED
Charles isn't Charles Jr. either, since his father is unknown. 

[amondg]

1911 census she is 54 years old, her birth date circa 1857.