Eleanor Frances Butler, née Greene (1848 - unknown)

[mckha489]

Find My Past has the 1921 census, it has a free index.

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Charles isn't Charles Jr. either, since his father is unknown.

Can you see them in 1921 Amongd?

OP, what happened to Charles?

[amondg]

I can't see them in 1921.

Not sure where OP is getting the birth information for Eleanor Frances Greene, I can't find it on BMD

circa 1848 or 1857

[mckha489]

Image is on ancestry.
Dates as OP reports in July 1848

[amondg]

Thanks.
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29 December 1888. St Pancras Guardian and Camden and Kentish Town Reporter.
Death of Mr. Charles Greene 34 years clerk to St Pancras Burial Board died Monday at his residence 18 Goldington Crescent, Camden Town. 
Paraphrased:-  74 years of age Burial at Finchley. His connection to the press for half a century reporting on the burning of the Royal Exchange January 1838. District registrar for 18 years, died at the table after having his tea.

[amondg]

Another article 20 December 1888 in The Weekly Dispatch under "Another Veteran Gone"

Mentions he was Quartermaster of the North Middlesex Rifles.

George Butler had also held that position.

[RW1]

Find My Past has the 1921 census, it has a free index.

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Charles isn't Charles Jr. either, since his father is unknown.

Quite so. It helps distinguish the two, even if not entirely accurate, as we now know. Every other man in this family seems to be called Charles!

[RW1]

I have the Census information for Eleanor Frances up to and including the 1911 one. I can't find her or her son, Charles, on the 1921 Census or the 1939 Register - although she would be 91 then, if still alive.

I could get Charles's birth certificate and search the 1939 using dob?

If Constance had the middle name Lofting and Eleanor's son was Charles, perhaps the father (if the same) was Charles Lofting?

[amondg]

I think getting the birth certificate is the only way to go, with an accurate DOB you should find him in 1939 or alternately a death record.

[RW1]

I think getting the birth certificate is the only way to go, with an accurate DOB you should find him in 1939 or alternately a death record.

Yes, many thanks for your interest.  I'll post any new find.