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Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« on: Sunday 10 December 23 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for the origins of Frederick Albert Lodge who was married in Glasgow in 1930. He is listed as being 36 years old (b.c. 1894?), a widower and a "newspaper checker". His father is given as Ernest Lodge, a hotel proprietor, and Annie Lodge, now Thompson, m.s. Collor (Spanish I'm told).

Frederick Albert Lodge is not a common name combination in Scotland in my experience within the records and in real life and I can find no prior mention of him or his parents in the Scottish records so I assume he may well have been English.

Long shot I know but does anyone out there recognise this chap, or indeed can suggest a source I can search.

Many thanks  :)

Willison
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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 December 23 21:33 GMT (UK) »
There's this chap

Frederick Albert Lodge
Baptism    21 Jun 1893    St John the Divine, Kennington, Lambeth,
Father    Ernest Lodge, labourer
Mother    Nellie Lodge
address Elfin Road

He looks to be the right chap, despite the difference in detail, given his mother's surname in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWG6-JB4

This is 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9CL-NWJ

I've  found Ernest and Nellie in 1891 (her Preece children are using the lodge surname) = he's no hotel proprietor. He's a carman

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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 December 23 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Birth registration

LODGE, FREDERICK  ALBERT
mmn      COLLOR     

Q3  1893  LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 463

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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 December 23 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Wow, Mabel.

This is a fantastic help, and so promptly delivered. I am researching this man as he appears on my wife's friend's tree that I am researching but I could find no earlier trace of him in Scotland prior to his marriage entry for 1930.
It's definitely the same man IMO, despite the minor inconsistencies.

Thank you once again.
Best regards
Willison
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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 December 23 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Parents' marriage

Ernest Henry William Copestake Lodge, 26. Carman
Father    John Lodge.                Gardener

Nellie Preece, 29 widow
Father William Collor, carpenter (deceased)

Marriage    9 Sep 1888 Saint Jude, Bethnal Green: Old Bethnal Green Road, Tower Hamlets, England


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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 December 23 22:02 GMT (UK) »

... and again, thank you.   ;D
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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 December 23 03:58 GMT (UK) »
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Above are the links to two free resources :

The GRO registrations index is free to search, Births and Death,  but you need to register first. With the Births, the MMS is recorded (unless it's an illegitimate birth where the child's surname is taken to be the MMS)

FreeBMD is a free resource. The MMS was not added to the source indexes until (from) Sep 1911

Cheers
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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 December 23 09:08 GMT (UK) »
This will need checking out.
Frederick Albert(V C) Lodge 1st married Mary Lucy Rule in JQ 1916 Newcastle. 2 daughters born.

Margaret Rule Lodge 1917 Newcastle (believe died as Margaret Rule Dilnutt 1999 dob 27 11. 1917
Enid Dorothy Lodge MQ 1922 Newcastle --died aged 0 MQ 1922.

Frederick/Mary L & Margaret on 1921 census

Mary Lucy Lodge dies aged 37 1926 Hackney

Frederick re-married 1930 to Elizabeth Keith

Daughter (cannot name as may be alive) born 1930 in Denniston, Scotland. Named after deceased daughter born 1922.

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added: daughter born in 1930 Enid Dorothy died 1979 in Glasgow Martha Street, surnames recorded as, Lodge,Jensen,McFadden,Shaw & Ward.


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Re: Frederick Albert Lodge, b. circa 1894 (assume England)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 December 23 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Frederick Albert was born 15th May 1893 according to GRO birth image

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Elizabeth Lodge nee' Keith died 1979 Glasgow Martha Street, mother's maiden name Colgan

Daughter Margaret Rule Lodge (1917-1999) 1st marriage sq 1954 Bromley to Robert G Burston (1910-1972), 2nd marriage Margaret R Burston sq 1973 to Ralph A(Arnold) Dilnutt (1912-2003)

Death

LODGE, ERNEST  HENRY WILLIAM    aged 35 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 431