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Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« on: Tuesday 12 December 23 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Mabel was a daughter of John Craig Martin and Sarah nee Colman. Her birth date strangely comes from U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Mabel Downing showing parents as John Martin & Sarah which means I presume she must have married a Mr Downing. However I can't find the marriage for her. Do you think this is a 'red herring?'
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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Her Social Security number was issued in New York between 1936 and 1950, and the note indicate that she was listed as Mabel Downing in May 1942.  If you can find her on a passenger list or census record, that might help to further narrow down the time frame and location of the marriage.

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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 14:17 GMT (UK) »
I think she was married before. There is a US Passport application for Boyd Campbell , dated 1908 , and his wife Mabel ,who was born in Hastings , and a possible marriage in England :

Boyd Campbell
Mabel Martin J-S 1907 West Derby

EDIT - and another marriage ceremony in California 19 Aug 1908 Santa Rosa Boyd Campbell and Mabel S Martin.

I don't have newspapers.com but think there are relevant articles there.
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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 14:50 GMT (UK) »

Great research Christine.  :)

The Berkeley Gazette
Berkeley, California
Thu, 20 Aug 1908
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-berkeley-gazette/136694040/

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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Some other mentions of the marriage:   https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-berkeley-gazette/136693843/  https://www.newspapers.com/article/santa-rosa-republican-marriage-of-campbe/136694110/

I wonder if Boyd was the same one who got a divorce in 1907 and was noted to be an actor playing in New York and London.  https://www.newspapers.com/article/oakland-enquirer/136694012/  Maybe his divorce wasn't completed at the time of the 1907 marriage in England, so they had another ceremony to make sure it was legal.

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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 14:59 GMT (UK) »
1920 census  West Seventy First Street  Manhattan Assembly District 7, New York, New York

Milton H Barley 50 Head
Mary C Barley 47 Wife
Mary E Barley 22 Daughter
Henry M Swart 31 Roomer
Elizabeth P Swart 31 Roomer
Frank R Swart 11 Roomer
Katherine L E Swart 8 Roomer
William B Campbell 11 Roomer. Born New York. Actor.
Dorothy C Campbell   8   Roomer. Born England.
Wm Boyd Campbell 45 Roomer
Mabel Campbell 35 Roomer. Actress. NA.

UK Baptism for Dorothy

Dorothy Ceilia Campbell - Baptism Date   26 Jan 1912
Baptism Place   Weaste, St Luke, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears   St Luke, Weaste
Father    Alexande Boyd Campbell
Mother    Mabel Sarah Campbell

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJYG-J8G

1925 New York Census only shows Mabel with the two children.

1930 Mabel widowed.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X426-1VP

marriage William B Campbell 1935 Manhattan

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24DB-YKJ

Family tree

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/G3WN-1WJ

Dorothy C Campbell - 4 January 1912 – 8 December 1985

marriage - https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/G3WN-1WJ
 
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/G3WN-1WJ

Hartford Courant
Hartford, Connecticut •
Wed, 30 Dec 1981
Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/article/hartford-courant/136696845/

a daughter of Dorothy and Gerald

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6K9Q-XQHZ


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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 15:01 GMT (UK) »
Boyd's WWI draft registration card - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZVC-7K8  There is some writing on top that looks like card mailed to N.V.A. Club, #1587 Broadway, New York City

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Re: Mabel Sarah Martin born 15 Feb 1884 Hastings, England
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 December 23 18:52 GMT (UK) »
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CAMPBELL, DOROTHY  CECILIA     mmn MARTIN 
GRO Reference: 1912  M Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 252

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