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Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« on: Wednesday 13 December 23 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me?
One of my ancestors, Robert Barwick, was born in Dalton, Yorkshire. He was a farmer for 40yrs and was a Catholic. I know this info from some old deeds my mother has that have been passed down the family.
My issue is I’ve not been able to find his Christening record. Is there anywhere I can find the Catholic records for Dalton parish for the early 1700s. I think he must have been born between 1700-1702. Many thanks
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Eskilson - East London / Sweden
Barwick - Dalton, Yorkshire North Riding

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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 December 23 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Could you please state where Dalton is - what country, what county?

And by the way, if your ancestor was a Roman Catholic you need the Roman Catholic Parish records for wherever Dalton is (and the surrounding area) not Non-Conformist records.

Ah, sorry , presumably it's in Yorkshire - didn't notice this was the Yorkshire board.
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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 December 23 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Dalton is in Yorkshire North Riding area.

Thanks for the info, I’ve searched most genealogy sites for his Christening record and nothing has come up.
Gilbert - Oxfordshire / London
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Barwick - Dalton, Yorkshire North Riding

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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 December 23 14:01 GMT (UK) »
At that time a Catholic priest who was caught would probably be executed. So any baptism would have been in private and secret. The chances of any record surviving are very small.
If the Dalton in question is the one near Thirsk then that would likely be within the Middlesbrough diocese. I do not think Ampleforth was set up that early.


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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 January 24 14:52 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 Daltons in N Yorks, one in Topcliffe parish and the other in Kirby Ravensworth.

Checking the guide for N. Yorkshire county record Office, there are no RC records as early as 1700. See

https://archivesunlocked.northyorks.gov.uk/CalmView/GetMultimedia.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=5a%5c01ce6e-8efe-4351-a091-2b6dd33a902d.pdf

A  guide to historic Catholic parish records in Yorkshire can be found in Catholic Missions and Registers 1700-1880: Volume 4 – North East England, compiled and published by Michael Gandy and the Catholic Family History Society in 1993.

Sometimes the RC are in the C of E register marked as papists

Useful information here:

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/catholics/
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 January 24 15:56 GMT (UK) »
According to this database, there was a family at Forcett NYorks called Barwick who were Catholic. There is a Robert son of Robert christened 1704 according to the PR with "they said" which I take to mean that this child was not baptized by the local C of E priest.

https://catholicfhs.online/images/cfhs/higginsdb/PDF/PAPISTS.pdf

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Forcett

Other children born to Robert Barwick at Forcett were Henry, Mary and Ann.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia

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Re: Catholic Church in Dalton early 1700s
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 January 24 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information! I will have a look at this
Gilbert - Oxfordshire / London
Eskilson - East London / Sweden
Barwick - Dalton, Yorkshire North Riding