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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 December 23 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Surely, then, Agnes must be a mistake?

Have you checked the 1794 marriage on Lancs OPC?. Have you checked the 1794 Marriage Licence Bond entries on FindMyPast?

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 December 23 16:48 GMT (UK) »
I've tried every combination of parameters that I can think of on FindMyPast, but I still can't find a marriage ca 1795 between Roger HURST/HAYHURST/HEYHURST and Agatha/Agnes XXXX. What am I doing wrong?
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 December 23 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Do I have access to Lancs OPC?
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 December 23 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Are you familiar with "more is less"? Just search FindMyPast for Roger Hayhurst under parish marriages 1794. I have only referred to Marriage Licence Bonds - no mention of marriage. These can also be viewed on FamilySearch.

The marriage is on Lancs OPC (these are transcripts only)
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 December 23 17:21 GMT (UK) »
A search for the marriage of Roger HAYHURST brings up:-

Roger HAIHURST  m  Agnes SUMNER  1794   in Leyland  (on Boyd's Marriage Index)

To my mind, not the most convincing of results
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 December 23 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the OPC details.

I haven't used this service since the days when it was necessary to message the OPC with a request for a search, which could take anything from a same day response up to over a week, depending on the OPC's work-load. This system is an eye-opener for me.

I've searched the whole county, 1790-1800 and found:-

01 Mar 1794   Roger HAYHURST  m  Agnes SUMNER  in St Andrew, Leyland

Nothing for HURST/HEYHURST  or  Agatha XXXX
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #15 on: Friday 15 December 23 18:38 GMT (UK) »
At reply #3 you were directed to a 1794 Hayhurst marriage on OPC - no mention of bride's given name or surname.  There isn't a 3rd party post that mentions either Agatha or Agnes/s as Roger Hayhurst/Heyhurst's spouse. The given names Agatha or Agnes/s have only been mentioned in relation to baptisms on this thread.

I cannot explain why you are unable to find the Marriage Llicence Bonds - 3 records under Roger Hayhurst, 1794. Searching under "Roger Hayhurst" with "Name variants" ticked against last name also delivered the "Haihurst" record - transcript only.

An alternative route in is -
Click on "Search" (Between Family Tree and 1921 Census)
Click on "Search all records" (next to a magnifying glass)
Delivers screen headed "Britain records in United Kingdom" and search for Roger Heyhurst with name variations ticked and 1794 + - 5yrs.
You should be interested in 5 of the first 7 names returned - including apprenticeship records.
 


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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #16 on: Friday 15 December 23 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks.

I've done that and it's brought up only 6 results:-

#1   a prison record
#2   22 Feb 1794  Roger HAYHURST of Clitherow  (Carrier) m  Agnes SUMNER
#3          do                   do                     do                           do                 of Leyland
#4   As #2 & 3  plus Roger b 1773, marriage in Leyland
#5   a baptism in 1796 in Blackburn
#6              1794  Roger HAIHURST  m  Agnes SUMNER

The originals of #2 & #3 quite clearly show the bride's name as Agnes
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Roger HURST ca 1798
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 16 December 23 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Did you search for "Heyhurst" with "Name variants" ticked or simply "Hayhurst"? Did you have a "Give or take" spread of "-/+ 5 years"?

My Results
#1 Heyhurst Roger, 1798 Apprentice record
#2 Hayhurst    "    , Prison record
#3 Hayhurst    "    , 1794 Marr bond
#4 Hayhurst    "    , 1794 Marr bond
#5 Hayhurst    "    , 1794 Marr bond, Leyland
#6 Hayhurst     "   , 1796  Birth/Bapt, Blackburn
#7 Hayhurst     "   , 1797 Apprentice record

5 out of 7 of interest?

re your #2 above
(a) it appears to read that the marriage took place 22 Feb 1794. It's the marriage BOND you are looking at and it isn't dated the 22nd. FindMyPast doesn't carry marriage date other than Boyd's index which simply gives the year. 
(b) recheck "(Carrier)".  Have you checked the 4 baptisms on Lancs OPC, one of which (Alice) records occupation and is a link to the apprentice records?