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POW help, please
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I'm told that Private 311397 Richard S Charlton was a POW whilst serving with the Corps of Hussars.

I've looked on the grandguerre.icrc.org website, and tried the Charlton's that aren't listed with a particular regiment, but couldn't find him and there's not a specific listing for the Corps of Hussars, so I don't know quite where else to look on that site.  I've also looked on Find My Past, because often there's a link to a POW card there, but there doesn't seem to be one for him.

Am I doing something wrong, please, or can anyone else find his POW record(s)?

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Re: POW help, please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 December 23 15:41 GMT (UK) »
What's his year of birth?

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 December 23 15:46 GMT (UK) »
What's his year of birth?

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 December 23 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Just for info, for others, hope it is correct one.


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Re: POW help, please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 December 23 15:52 GMT (UK) »
You are more likely to find him under the Leicestershire Regiment where his number was 46092. He was reported missing, presumed POW, on 26 May 1918, with an enquiry as to his whereabouts being made via the Red Cross on 2 August 1918.

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 December 23 16:04 GMT (UK) »
You are more likely to find him under the Leicestershire Regiment where his number was 46092. He was reported missing, presumed POW, on 26 May 1918, with an enquiry as to his whereabouts being made via the Red Cross on 2 August 1918.

Added. This confirms chempat's find.

There isn't a separate list on the grandguerre website of Charlton's who were in the Leicesters, and I've tried the ones without a named regiment on the index without any luck.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 December 23 16:14 GMT (UK) »
You are more likely to find him under the Leicestershire Regiment where his number was 46092. He was reported missing, presumed POW, on 26 May 1918, with an enquiry as to his whereabouts being made via the Red Cross on 2 August 1918.

Added. This confirms chempat's find.

I've seen those entries on Find My Past now, and they indicate his whereabouts were enquired about (in Aug and Nov 1918), but don't actually confirm he was a POW - although quite where he was between May and November would be good to know! 

Edited to add: I've just found a newspaper report dated Aug 1918 which says something like "was reported missing, now POW", which just adds to the puzzle.  If, in August, the family (who presumably told the newspaper) knew that he was a POW, why were they asking again re his whereabouts in November 1918? 
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 December 23 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Although the Germans were noted for their thoroughness in recording the movements of the POWs they held, I suspect all that went out of the window after June 1918 when the morale of the German Army collapsed and they were steadily pushed out of Flanders and back into their own country, leading to the Armistice on 11 November. This collapse of the system might account for why the International Red Cross has no record for him during those final months.
If you are on Ancestry it would be worth checking the medal rolls for the Leicestershire Regiment to see if they include any details of his captivity.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 December 23 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Although the Germans were noted for their thoroughness in recording the movements of the POWs they held, I suspect all that went out of the window after June 1918 when the morale of the German Army collapsed and they were steadily pushed out of Flanders and back into their own country, leading to the Armistice on 11 November. This collapse of the system might account for why the International Red Cross has no record for him during those final months.
If you are on Ancestry it would be worth checking the medal rolls for the Leicestershire Regiment to see if they include any details of his captivity.

He's on the Corps of Hussars medal roll, not the Leicesters.  It says the medals (BW & V) were returned, and gives his date of disembodiment (11.10.1919), but nothing about him being a POW.  Does the fact that he was discharged (disembodied) so late, signify that after his release from being a POW (if that happened) he then served with the Corps of Hussars? 
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