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Missing groom
« on: Friday 15 December 23 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi all it’s been awhile but when in doubt ask the best problem solver’s on here.

I have a marriage for a Mary Ann Winch oct/dec 1852 1c 553 Bethnal Green, the bdm does not give a groom. I would really appreciate if someone could trace her other half. I am taking a guess it may have been at St.Matthias church. I m hoping it is William Claridge but spelt wrongly.

Fingers crossed and thank you in advance for any help given.

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 December 23 18:53 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage for a Mary Ann Winch on Ancestry
St James the great Bethnal Green 28 November 1852
Her spouse was William Henry Jones
Father John Winch


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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 December 23 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Mary Ann Winch married William Henry Jones 28.11.1852 at St James The Great Bethnal Green.  Her father was John Winch - labourer
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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 December 23 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help, just a shame it wasn’t the answer I hoped for.😏 I’m not sure if they even married as I have an idea she was still married and her husband had left her. Still that little problem didn’t stop a lot of people who would not have been able to get a divorce.

In the 1851 census she is William Claridge/ Carridge with a mixture of his children and hers. There seems to have been a daughter Jane Claridge age 1 in 1851 census but she seems to disappear, any ideas would be welcome.

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 December 23 21:33 GMT (UK) »
They weren't married on 1 Dec 1851 as his son William married on that date and one of the witnesses looks like Mary Winch  (surname is definitely ??nch)

You ask about Jane - she's still with them in 1861?

William Clarrage  52 Glass blower, b Bath
Mary Ann Clarrage   42 tailoress
Henry Clarrage   15
John Clarrage  12
Edward Clarrage  12
Jane Clarrage    10    
Mary Ann Baldwin   16   Daughter
Henry Baldwin         20   Son-in-law
Henry Baldwin          3/12  Grandson

Is this Edward's birth?
CLARIDGE, EDWARD
mmn        COLSON     
Q4  1847 BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 74

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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 December 23 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Jane, like her sister,  also marries young in an unexpected place

Hull Volume    9d p345

Jane Clarridge
Thomas Gill
Mary Ann Robinson
George Martin Tune

She and Thomas are lodging in Nottingham in 1871 - she's b London c1851

When Jane Gill remarries as a widow in 1893, her father is William Clarridge, glass blower (dec)


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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 December 23 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Jane Clarridge,     18
Father William Clarridge

Thomas Gile     26
Father    William Gile

Marriage    25 Nov 1868, Holy Trinity Church, Hull
    

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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 December 23 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Mary Ann marries Henry Baldwin as Winch

WINCH, MARY  ANN
mmn      BLEASE     
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 55

Mary Ann Blease married Henry Edward Winch in 1841 - his father James, a gardener

A Henry Edward Winch, a widower,  father James, marries in Bethnal green in 1875

Suspect she can;t remarry

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Re: Missing groom
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 December 23 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Wow you all never fail to amaze me. I can’t believe you have solved the puzzle of Jane Claridge.

I guessed Mary Ann Winch was not able to remarry and just took William’s name.

Elizabeth Colston was Williams first wife who he married before coming up to London from Bristol. Elizabeth died in 1847 in the London Hospital, sadly her death certificate gives her cause of death as prostrate cancer so I am none the wiser.
 
William seems to pick up with Mary Ann after her husband left some time between 1847 and Jane’s birth.

As you have pointed out I picked her up from being a witness at son Williams marriage and unpicked who her children were and who they married.

My husband is also a William and is the first in five generations to have not been a glass blower. Over the years I must admit the occupation was helpful in identifying them.

Thank you all once again for your wonderful generosity in helping me.

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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