CHARLES GABRIEL THOMPSON

[mckha489]

Marriages Mar 1959   (>99%)
MONAT    Phyllis P   Jan  PASTUSZAK    Middleton    10e   1187


Deaths Dec 1962   (>99%)
PASTUSZAK    Philippa  53    Bristol    7b   1

I wonder what the 1959 marriage cert would say

[paul_mc]

This is fantastic. Thank you so much.

How would I get hold of that certificate?

[mckha489]

You would have to order it here. You have to register, and then pay.  Because it’s a marriage it will come by snail mail.. do you have a UK contact/address it can be sent to?  Otherwise it takes FOREVER for them to arrive!

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/app_select.asp

Enter the page & volume from the link I gave (from freebmd)

[paul_mc]

One thibg I don't understand though...

On the 1939 census shes married to Alex Moaut but listed as Phillipa Pastuszad (Mouat) so that would lead me to think her maiden name was Pastuszad however now i see there was a marriage in 1959 to Jan Pastuszak. Has the Pastuszad only been added to the 1939 record as it was only recentky released and someone was just tidying things up?

[AMBLY]

The 1939 register was  a 'living record' and until the 1990's women's surnames were updated to show their married name(s) If she was born 1 Aug 1909 in England/Wales,  we might expect her Birth Reg to be in the Sep Qtr that year - or perhaps in the Dec Qtr.

[paul_mc]

ok thanks for explaining. Now that I know she was born in Birmingham. How do I set about finding her parents?

[AMBLY]

ok thanks for explaining. Now that I know she was born in Birmingham. How do I set about finding her parents?

  That's the million $ question - I think, the 1959 marriage  to see her father's details and compare to the 1928 Scotland marriage  will be good.  She said she was born Birmingham - but that may not be the case, considering the Phillis Phoebe / Philippia differences!

[Neale1961]

Beatrice Mouat Appears on the 1939 register below Alexander and Philippa (DOB 2 versions of it – the 1926 one I think is correct)

In 1929, Beatrice age 4, travels to Quebec to her father Mr Alex Mouat in Victoria B C
Travelling with her is a sister-in-law named Eva Thompson age 17 born Worcester. She is travelling to her brother-in law-in Quebec ( Alexander).

(Beatrice returns to Scotland when the whole family come back in 1936.)

[AMBLY]

Snap Neale 1961    I too had just found Beatrice and Aunty Eva in 1929

I had  noticed - on the 1936 manifest of the family arriving in England,  the  daughter (B) her age is given as 10, so born about 1926. And the same daughter on the Register (with the 1951 married name Garforth added) has the birthdate 25 Dec 1922 (and above it added 21 Dec 1926) - either way, prior to the 1928 marriage.

She travelled seperately on same ship as Alexander & Philippia

Beatrice Mouat 4, b Birmingham, England, passage paid by Father: 
Alex Mouat, c/o Government Buildings, Victoria BC
Sister in Law: Eva Thompson 17, Scholar, b Worcester, passage paid by Brother in law.
Nearest relative: Whence came Aunt Mrs Esbel Carter, 42 Snow Hill, Birmingham
Note against Beatrice  "with parents travelled Cabin, sheet 4 lines 9 &10"   (which they were)