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Thelsea Grove in 1901
« on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Thelsea Lilian GROVE's birth is registered in Sep 1897.
She appears in the 1911 census with her mother, Alice Grove, living in Harborne, Worcs, where it says that she was born in Smethwick (ie part of Harborne).
Her mother is with her family in 1901 in Harborne, but there is no sign of Thelsea.
Have they hidden her through the shame of illegitimacy or is there a more prosaic answer?
Richard
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Try looking  under her Christian name and birth 2 years either side of her birth year shown. LM

Added, on free bed's there are only 3 listing of Thelsea and I believe it is the same woman  married to?   Mitchell .
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:26 GMT (UK) »

Her mother is with her family in 1901 in Harborne, but there is no sign of Thelsea.


Maybe she was just accidentally missed off by either Edwin when he completed the form or the enumerator when they transferred the details.   :-\
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for replying.
I have looked for her under all sorts of combinations (Thelsea/Thels*/TG/Grove etc) but not found her (which may be just me, of course).
Yes, she does later marry a Mitchell.
I would just like to know who was looking after he in 1901.
My guess is that she was with them, but they just left her off the census for whatever reason.
Richard
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:27 GMT (UK) »

Her mother is with her family in 1901 in Harborne, but there is no sign of Thelsea.


Maybe she was just accidentally missed off by either Edwin when he completed the form or the enumerator when they transferred the details.   :-\

Sorry; posts crossed. Yes that's my guess.
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:29 GMT (UK) »
I have 2 of mine left off census, find it impossible to forget a child at census time.

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Wouldn't she have been about 13, would she be elsewhere in service?.

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Wouldn't she have been about 13, would she be elsewhere in service?.

LM

She is with the family in 1911 when she was 13.  She would only have been 3 when not there  :)
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Re: Thelsea Grove in 1901
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 December 23 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes, oops, sorry for my mistake, not to big to apologise.

She did have a middle name, can't recall it right now, I haven't looked at the census.

LM
Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London