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Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« on: Saturday 16 December 23 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Would be grateful for your help with this marriage record from the 1890s in Glasgow please.
I have done the rest of it but cannot decipher the maiden surname of the mother and need it to go back a generation. Can anyone decipher it please?

Father: Albert ZumBach, general merchant, and Amanda ZumBach, M. S [?].




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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 December 23 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Behrmann to me
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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 December 23 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Behrmann to me

Thank you, that makes sense with what I have already discovered in the records. Much appreicated.

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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 December 23 22:56 GMT (UK) »
That's great! Can't find a marriage for them though - sorry…
Clarkson, Tolladay, Prevost, Killick, Hicks


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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 December 23 12:48 GMT (UK) »
There is a birth the following year 1892 of an Albert Zum Bach mmn Hawen, so is the surname ZumBach or Bach

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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 December 23 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Info only:

1901 census

Albert Lum      Bach   Head     Married   Male   34   1867   Coal exporter   -
Angelica        Bach   Wife     Married   Female   30   1871   -   -
Amanda   Bach   -   Widow   Female   65   1836   -   -
Albert   Bach   Son   Single   Male   9   1892   Scholar   Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland     
Louise   Prem?   Servant   Single   Female   20   1881   Serv general   Germany

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Name   Margaretha Franziska Angela Hawen
Gender   weiblich (Female)
Birth Date   25 Aug 1872
Birth Place   Trier, Rheinland Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office   Trier-Stadt
Father   
Franz Hawen
Mother   
Margaretha Hawen
Certificate Number   415

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1500038160:61646

further addition

If you have access to anc* details of  Albert Wilhelm Zum Bach

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/300084706:9156

Looks as though Albert Wilhelm Zumbach remarried in 1918 Hamburg, naming his father as Carl Albert Julius Zumbach and mother Johanna Amanda Behrmann

Angela remarries in 1920

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60504/images/43774_332%5E5%5E%5E8751-00186?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=1321fb0a-5c81-48cd-9935-c2ecff8d770c&usePUB=true&_phsrc=jWn2842&_phstart=successSource&pId=1698983700

Albert Died 1931

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/908361325:60505?tid=&pid=&queryId=8f9c765b-7acb-47b4-a993-828b3bb21848&_phsrc=jWn2834&_phstart=successSource

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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 December 23 13:54 GMT (UK) »
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Name   Johanna Amanda Zumbach
[Johanna Amanda Behrmann]
Death Age   80
Birth Date   28 Dez 1839 (28 Dec 1839)
Death Date   21 Mär 1920 (21 Mar 1920)
Death Place   Hamburg, Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office   Hamburg 01
Certificate Number   579

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added, can anyone read German, does it name her parents

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/390406:60505?tid=&pid=&queryId=5cef8c87-8dd0-4272-96ec-7c8369835cc5&_phsrc=jWn2800&_phstart=successSource

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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 December 23 20:40 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Scotland People's record - one maiden surname that I can't decipher
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 December 23 20:45 GMT (UK) »
I am also looking at his mother's parents - see screenshot.