James Lee Tooze

[mepeters1]

Good afternoon,

Could anyone help (before I spend £14 and order a marriage certificate)

My Great Grandmother: Lily Martha Safia Elizabeth Leetooze (1894 - 1986) parents were Tryphena Penrose and James Lee Tooze.

I have found a baptism for (on ancestry)

Record details
Name   James Lee Tooze
Baptism Date   22 Nov 1861
Baptism Place   Ottery St Mary, Devon, England
Religion   Anglican
Mother   Elizabeth

I am unable to find him on the birth register, I have searched GRO.

I am guessing the only way I will find his parents is through ordering his marriage certificate, unless you lovely lot have any suggestions.

Many Thanks

Michelle xxx

[rosie99]

Could anyone help (before I spend £14 and order a marriage certificate)

Not answering your question but marriage certificates are £11 
https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate

If he was illegitimate it is unlikely that his father would be named

[mepeters1]

 ow okay. I thought they were £14 on GRO

Thanks

Michelle

[rutht22000]

I think he is on the GRO but registered as James Tooze.  Honiton registration district March Quarter 1861.

The mother's maiden name is down as a line suggesting illegitimacy.  Might be worth getting the digital image off the GRO as it only costs £2.50 in case there are some clues on it but realistically, Dad might not be on there.  Perhaps his father was a Mr Lee?

[hanes teulu]

There's a James Tooze, 7 weeks old, on the 1861 Census - Ottery St Mary. Head of household is Elizabeth Tooze, unmarried.

There's a James Tooze birth registration 1st qtr 1861 at Honiton, Devon - no maiden name present., 

[rutht22000]

There's a James Tooze, 7 weeks old, on the 1861 Census - Ottery St Mary. Head of household is Elizabeth Tooze, unmarried.

There's a James Tooze birth registration 1st qtr 1861 at Honiton, Devon - no maiden name present.,

and also another sibling called Ellen, aged 2.

[mepeters1]

Thank you.

The 1861 census, you are looking at, it also has an Ellen Tooze on?

Many Thanks

[hanes teulu]

Ellen was registered at Honiton also 1859

[rosie99]

Ellens marriage in 1886 does not name a father