James Lee Tooze

[rutht22000]

and Fred, baptised 20 July 1873, also Ottery St Mary.

So that's potentially 4 illegitimate children?

actually can that - 5 now?

there is an Emma born of Elizabeth Twose, single woman, baptised 25 December 1864 Ottery St Mary.  Gives address as Butts

[rosie99]

Elizabeth is with husband Efrem Hoare in 1881 plus Ellen & Frank.  Also a son of Efrem & Elizabeth Charles T Hoare

[rutht22000]

Summary for the sake of my brain:

Ellen, baptised 17 April 1859 (as Tooze-Dudd)
James Lee, baptised 22 November 1861
Emma, baptised 25 December 1864
Frank, baptised 17 May 1868
Fred, baptised 20 July 1873

[rutht22000]

Elizabeth is with husband Efrem Hoare in 1881 plus Ellen & Frank.  Also a son of Efrem & Elizabeth Charles T Hoare

Charles Ephraim Tooze baptised as son of Elizabeth Tooze, single woman on 30 November 1878. She must have married Mr Hoare after.

[rosie99]

Marriage Mar qtr 1879
HOARE    Ephraim       
Tooze    Elizabeth       
Honiton    5b   39

[mepeters1]

Ruth

are you getting all of this from ancestry?

could I private message you please? x

[rosie99]

Is a private message necessary as there are others on this post trying to help you.  Ottery baptism records are on FindMyPast

[mepeters1]

Yes, sorry I am thankful to everyone that has answered x

[rutht22000]

Emma was buried 1 January 1865 and Fred on 6 October 1874. Both Ottery St Mary

On the Devon Burials on FindMyPast