James Lee Tooze

[rutht22000]

Thank you.

The 1861 census, you are looking at, it also has an Ellen Tooze on?

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Hi

Yes, 2 year old Ellen is with them, named as Elizabeth's daughter. There may be some Bastardy records about that might name the father but not guaranteed. 

It might be worth getting the digital image from GRO as you will get it instantly to download and see what address Elizabeth was at when she gave birth to see if that helps with anything.

I wonder if its Mr Lee as often illegitimate children did have their father's name like that.

[mepeters1]

How do I search bastady records?

I cannot find his record of birth, do you mean to order the baptism?

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[hanes teulu]

Thank you.

The 1861 census, you are looking at, it also has an Ellen Tooze on?

Many Thanks

Hi

Yes, 2 year old Ellen is with them, named as Elizabeth's daughter. There may be some Bastardy records about that might name the father but not guaranteed. 

It might be worth getting the digital image from GRO as you will get it instantly to download and see what address Elizabeth was at when she gave birth to see if that helps with anything.

I wonder if its Mr Lee as often illegitimate children did have their father's name like that.

I had checked Honiton for possible "Mr Lees" on the basis of Lee smacking of surname.

Ellen was baptised 17th Apr 1859, mother Elizabeth Tooze-Dudd, single woman - abode Butts

[rutht22000]

They could possibly be online or at a stretch something recorded in the local newspapers (I'll have a look).

If you go on the GRO (gro.gov.uk) he is there if you just search for James Tooze and drop the Lee part.  The birth is registered in March Quarter 1861 in Honiton.  I'll see if I can find the baptism online as Findmypast has a lot of Devon records to see if it holds more information than Ancestry has. 

[mepeters1]

Ruth is this the record on GRO with no mothers maiden name, named?

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[rutht22000]

The original baptism is on Findmypast.

James Lee Tooze was privately baptised on 22 November 1861 and was born at Yonder Street, Ottery St Mary.  No father and Elizabeth is described as a single woman. 

Private baptism might suggest he was unwell at the time and done urgently.

[rutht22000]

Ruth is this the record on GRO with no mothers maiden name, named?

Many Thanks

Hi
yes, it is - its just a line but the baptism I've just posted gives an address of Yonder Street where he was living when he was baptised so the certificate might not give much more

[rosie99]

There is also a baptism of a Frank Tooze, mother Elizabeth - Single woman - abode Sandhill Street - 17th May 1868 

Ellens baptism has been entered as Surname Loose - Dudd

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast baptism (transcript only)
Ottery St Mary, Elizabeth Tooze Deb or Dudd, bap 12 July 1835, parents Robert and Jane.

The age fits the Elizabeth on the '61 Census.
There are various Toose/Twose/Toose Dudd baptisms, Ottery St Mary, parents Robert/Jane, 1833 - 1843.