What happened to Amelia Frampton

[mckha489]

Yes, but where is her death?
Sad reading of her son Erle’s probate.

https://collections.archives.govt.nz/web/arena/search#/entity/aims-archive/R14562176/friston%2C-erle-onesimus?q=Erle+friston&source=aims-archive

Getting very side tracked now!
Anyway! I would buy the Elizabeth Emily 1895 death cert if it was my family. But I am apt to be a spendthrift regarding this hobby!

[minniehaha]

Eliza still not found [husband's details]:

1932/7440   Friston   Frederick Onesimus   66Y


Frederick Onesimus Friston, Circa 1867 - 1932
Frederick Onesimus Friston was born circa 1867, in birth place, Kentucky.
Frederick had 8 siblings: Lily Jane Friston, Hubert Livingstone Friston and 6 other siblings.
Frederick married Mabel Alice Friston (born Rickard).
Mabel was born circa 1875, in birth place.
They had 2 children.
Frederick then married Eliza Marian Friston (born Frampton).
Eliza was born circa 1870.
They had 2 children: Erle Frederick Friston and one other child.
Frederick lived in 1871, in address.
Frederick passed away in 1932, at age 65 in death place.
Documents of Frederick Onesimus Friston
 
Frederick Onesimus Friston in New Zealand, Death Index, 1840-2021
Frederick Onesimus Friston was born circa 1866.
Frederick passed away in 1932, at age 66 in death place .
 
Frederick Onesimus Friston in New Zealand, Auckland Burials
Frederick Onesimus Friston was born circa 1866.
Frederick passed away on August 25 1932, at age 66.
He was buried in O'Neill's Point Cemetery, Auckland, New Zealand.

https://www.myheritage.com/names/frederick_friston

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/261518717/eliza-marion-friston

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/231855388/frederick-onesimus-friston

Minniehaha.

[Eyesee]

There are FRAMPTONs in the Hunterville Cemetery who are
Ada died 30 Nov 1919 aged 49
Frederick W died 9 Jul 1932 aged 67

Would appear to be husband and wife, Frederick William FRAMPTON married Ada BALDWIN in 1896

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Ada Elizabeth FRAMPTON appears to be buried in the Halcombe Cemetery, which you may already know.

https://www.mdc.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemetery-record-details?plotid=13567

Aged 19 at death according to NZBDM.

Died at Palmerston North on 29 March

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/FS18950330.2.5

Ian C

[jrc11]

Thank you for all the replies. I am trying to clarify and confirm the children's details and in the course of doing that looked at other trees. As might be expected many irregularities but several trees referred to Eliza Marion as Marion. This led to find (via Find a Grave) the death of a Marion Friston b 1866 d 19 Dec 1902. She is buried in the Archer St Cemetery Masterton Wellington. I am cautiously optimistic that this is Eliza Marion. I will provide more info when I have properly verified it.

[mckha489]

Thank you for all the replies. I am trying to clarify and confirm the children's details and in the course of doing that looked at other trees. As might be expected many irregularities but several trees referred to Eliza Marion as Marion. This led to find (via Find a Grave) the death of a Marion Friston b 1866 d 19 Dec 1902. She is buried in the Archer St Cemetery Masterton Wellington. I am cautiously optimistic that this is Eliza Marion. I will provide more info when I have properly verified it.

Yes, you are correct.
Newspaper notice here

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WDT19021220.2.3?end_date=31-12-1902&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=Friston&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1902

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WDT19021220.2.6?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=F.+O.+Friston&snippet=true&sort_by=byTY.rev

And..no wonder I couldn’t find it in the BDMs yesterday

1902/6969   Fenton   Eliza Marion   36Y

[jrc11]

Thank you all for your replies. I have looked at all the links and there are some interesting items there. Shanereagh you refer to an Ann Frampton with some reference numbers I have no idea what this is about.mckha489 thank you for confirming Marion Friston's death. You provide a link to Erle Frampton's will. I had to register to access it and after a convoluted registering process successfully registered -or so I thought  then up came login failed! To avoid confusion here is what I know about the children:
Eliza Marion  b 1866 Bermondsey. 1893 m Frederick Onesimus Friston They had 2 children Erle Frederick (1898) and Ellen Marian (c1900). Erledied on 29 Nov 1920 in Townsville, Queensland. He is commemorated on the Townsville memorial but on line at least is recorded as Eric. I have advised the Australian War Memorial Research centre of this. I know nothing for certain about Ellen other than her birth. However at the link belowthere is an item that refers to Ellen Marion Friston and there is an appropriate marriage in 1921. Many trees give a death in 1989 with no evidence and I have not found one,
https://alchetron.com/Geoffrey-Duncan-Chisholm
Charles Edwin b1870 Lewisham London. Died 25/Oct 1899. Buried  Waikumete cemetery
Thomas Milton b  1872 Greenwich. Died  16  Aug 1903 @ Tokomaru Bay, buried Makaraka cemetery Gisbourne. On 23 May 1900 m Margaret Elizabeth  “Pets” Warren. 14 Oct 1900 Charles Edwin born. In 1925 he (Charles) m Edith Ada Lister. It is possible they had at least one child. Charles d 1983 in Auckland.
Ada Elizabeth b 6 May 1876 West Ham.d 1895. Buried @ Halcombe cemetery.
Regards

[mckha489]

What happens if you try this for Erle’s probate?

https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE64321084



Ellen (known I think as Nellie as brother has Miss N in his stuff) Marion’s wedding

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HNS19220125.2.55?items_per_page=10&query=Friston+Chisholm+&snippet=true

One wonders why Frederick Friston seems noticeable by his absence at the wedding

[mckha489]

I wonder if Ellen married a second time. There is this 1989 death

1989/49512   Hunt   Marion Ellen   27 December 1897

Added…but I am not convinced that is correct.

See later