Missing Parish of Nabels or similar.

[venelow]

Hi Wiltshire Chatters

I have been looking at a marriage entry from Christian Malford dated 1799. It is stated the bride, Joanna Fry, is of the Parish of Nabels. It is quite clearly written but I cannot find any parish with that name. Google suggests I mean Naples.

I feel that the name of the Parish has been misheard or misread from another document. They were married by Licence which might provide a clue but unfortunately there are no Wiltshire Marriage Licence records on Ancestry or Find My Past.

This marriage was between Samuel Hull (of Christian Malford) and Joanna Fry and can be seen on Ancestry by searching Church of England Wiltshire Marriages 1754 - 1916.

Any ideas about Nabels gratefully received.

Venelow
Canada

[Galium]

FindMyPast has transcriptions of Sarum ie. diocese of Salisbury marriage licence bonds.  Joanna's parish is given as (Sutton Benger) Nabals

http://epns.nottingham.ac.uk/browse/Wiltshire/532886dab47fc40d38000d03-Sutton+Benger

[arthurk]

It's in the middle of this map:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.3&lat=51.52265&lon=-2.09487&layers=168&b=10

You can see it on a modern map by changing the background layer to OS Maps Leisure, then adjusting the transparency of the overlay.

[Capetown]

Just for information (NABAL/KNABWELL) the name appears to go way back.

Checking on National Archives

Just Google A2a and look for the Heading
The National Archives
Discovery|National Archives

This takes you starting to : ' Explore the catalogue' then enter information you are looking for) in this case:  NABALS SUTTON BENGER.

Held at East Sussex Record Office
Date: 09 October 1571

Exemplification of writs of covenant

and headed

Wilts: (this includes)

Knabwell (Nabal's Farm in Sutton Benger).

Knabwell (Nabal's Farm in Sutton Benger

[Capetown]

On National Archives, there is also

Reference: 873/358

Description: Marriage Settlement of GEORGE FRY, junior, Enham, Hants and Charlotte HATHWELL, Nabals farm, Draycott Cerne, 1837 with correspondence 1845, 1856-1857

Date: 1839-1857

Held by: Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre.  not available at The National Archives.

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Wikpedia

Draycot Cerne

Draycot Cerne (Draycott) is a small village and former civil parish, now in the parish of Sutton Benger, in Wiltshire, England, about 3 miles (5 k) north...... etc etc.

[Capetown]

If you want to search for National Archives for

HULL of Christian Milford Wiltshire, there does appear to be Wills*  held at The National Archives - Kew

*These are Wills: Prerogative Court of Canterbury which (I think) are only held at Kew - but can be downloaded.

for example:

Will of James HULL of Christian Malford, Wiltshire - dated 20 December 1810

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James HULL born Christian Malford, Wiltshire.  Served in 5th Foot Regiment, Wiltshire Militia, Discharged .......

Royal Hospital Chelsea.  Soldiers Service Documents (this one dated: 1805-1824 and this James HULL discharged aged 47.

[venelow]

Thank you Galium and arthurk and Caprtown

Your additional information and spelling led me to British History on Line. They have a section on Malmesbury Hundred and quite detailed accounts of each parish.

The section on Sutton Benger does not mention it at all but the write ups on Stanton St Quentin and Draycot Cerne do. Apparently bits got sold off and boundaries were moved. It is shown on a map of Draycot Cerne Parish dated 1839 in British History on Line. It was extraparochial until 1830 which probably accounted for some confusion.

So it was never a Parish. According to the information found by Capetown it was in Sutton Benger in the 1500s. But by the time of the 1799 marriage it was most likely in Draycot Cerne. I guess parish boundaries are subject to change from time to time.

Looking on Google Street View I found that the farm is still there and is accessed from a road called Scotland Hill a little north of the M4. There is a smart sign at the entrance for Nables Farm.

Also thanks for the information about the Sarum Marriage Licences Galium. I'd forgotten about Sarum.

Venelow
Canada

[ribbo39]

Hi Venelow,

Just to add for info, the marriage licence reads;
Samuel Hull, Christian Malford, bac, (s/o Joseph) to
Joanna Fry, (Sutton Benger) Nabals, Wilts
Bondsman;  John Dark, Yeo, Christian Malford
Dated;          Christian Malford 18-4-1799

Taken from the Wilts, Dorset & Berks Marriage Licence Bonds CD from Wilts FHS

Alan

[venelow]

Hi ribbo39

Thank you for that additional information.

Venelow