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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 23 December 23 03:32 GMT (UK) »
Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church (after which she’d usually attend her husband’s), so you can’t generally tell what denomination the groom was from the marriage, only the bride. And frequently the baptism of children is in a different church to the one where the couple married.

Fanny Morton marrying in Carrick on Suir Church of Ireland (ie Anglican) suggests the Morton family were of that denomination. Sadly that church has no early baptism records (possibly lost in the 1922 fire) so if that’s where any Mortons were baptised or buried, there are no records to search.

Clarinda Gellately marrying in a Presbyterian church suggests that was her denomination and Presbyterian suggests Scots origins. Gellatly/Gallatly is a fairly common name in Perthshire and Angus (and perhaps elsewhere).  So I’d be thinking in terms of Scots origins for that family. I note her father was a distiller. Possibly he came from Scotland? That might be a clue as to why he was living in Ireland. (A very famous Irish Whiskey is Jamesons, made in Co Cork. John Jameson was a distiller from Alloa in Scotland).
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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 23 December 23 08:10 GMT (UK) »
In case you haven't already got these...

From a baptismal transcript, in Clonmel Church of Ireland parish church, a son Joseph Samuel Morton, born on 5 February 1856, was baptised on 4 March 1856 for parents Johnston Morton, a servant, and Clarinda Morton of Clonmel. In the same church, a son Thomas Moreton, born on 17 April 1858, was baptised on 14 May 1858 for parents Johnston Moreton, a servant, and Clarinda Moreton of Clonmel.


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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 23 December 23 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Looking at records held by the RCB Library and see the link below for Portlaw, Waterford.
Wonder if this means the RCB hold records for Clonegam from 1741 to 2007?   
See
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/ABC/ClonegamParishRegisterList.pdf

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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 23 December 23 10:30 GMT (UK) »
@gaffy Thanks again for your leads, I didn't have those records.  How did you find these birth and baptism records, is there a site I should know about? This opens up a whole new set of children for Johnston and Clarinda, who had their last child in Birkenhead after travelling to England. The other son I have managed to find, John, born in Ireland, signed up for the Royal Navy and died in Stonehouse, Plymouth in 1875 from a kidney infection. Great help to me, thanks
Morton - Tipperary, Longford/Clonmel Ireland
Gallatley - Ireland,
Brownbill - Liverpool, Prescot
Burberry - Dorking
Bonnyman - Elgin/Buckie/St Albans


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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 23 December 23 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Is this John? I saw the entry on a published tree.
19th June 1855 at St Peter and St Paul, Clonmel. This was a Catholic baptism
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632167#page/246/mode/1up

You would think that there would be more births before this as they married in 1848.
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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 23 December 23 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen this man? I wonder if he is anything to do with your family?
Based on this newspaper snippet which I can’t access further as it is from a pay site:
13th September 1856 - Clonmel Chronicle
Mentions the bravery of Color Sergeant Edward Morton, 33d Regt.
It continues that his ‘ father was, for several years, stationed, as a sergeant of police, at New-Inn, in this Riding…’

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1851 2410 /400/25
Tynemouth
Edward Morton, 21 yrs, Sergeant 33rd Regiment

1871 3806 /87/5
Toxteth Park
Edward Morton, 41 yrs unmarried Colour Sergeant, Pensioner b Ireland

He is living at 20, Tay Street whilst yourJohnston is at no 9.

A Fold 3 (subscription) record index shows:
Sergeant Edward Morton
Enlisted  1846 17 yrs
Discharged  1856 27 yrs
Birth Date   abt 1829
Birth Place   Knockgraffon, Tipperary
Regiment   33rd Regt of Foot
Regimental Number   2064
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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 23 December 23 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Steviepeas

I have access to the full account of Sgt Morton’s bravery. If you send me your e-mail by pm, I’ll send you the page.
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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 December 23 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering.
Did you know about Edward, steviepeas?
If so, is he related?
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Re: Fanny Morton, possibly Longford, Carrick, Clonmel areas
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 December 23 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Other mentions - may be possibilities re father Edward

Clonmel Herald 3rd December 1834
“Robbery of Fire Arms - Police Serjeant Morton and the party police under his command, New Inn”

Clonmel Herald 23rd November 1836
“The police at New Inn under the command of police serjeant Morton…”
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