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Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« on: Monday 25 December 23 11:39 GMT (UK) »


Morning, Im looking for details on the Allan Family if anyone can shed some light.
I have catherine Allan born 18 nov 1882 chapel st, berwick (Cert purchased) , Who married Edward Matthews then she was widowed by the age of 28, then she married Thomas Evans.

Her mother Sarah Allen/Allan, No father named. i find them in Berwick workhouse in 1891 along with Sarah's daughter Alice aged 1, There is a possible death for Alice at just aged 3 years old.

I can't seem to locate what happens to sarah after this. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Lisa x

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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 December 23 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Catherine is on the 1939 register but you may want to look at the birth cert you have for her in relation to the birthyear given on the 1939 register

See freebmd - there are 2 Catherine Allan births in Berwick - both in the December qtr but one in 1882 & the other in 1883 - both were illegitimate

On the face of it - the Catherine Matthews who married Thomas Evans in 1926 is not the one b 1882n which case you may be pursuing the wrong line
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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 December 23 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Believe your Sarah(c1863) married John Patrick McGrath 1892 Berwick. This is transcribed on Freebmd as Sarah Allan/John Patrick McGraw

ALLEN, SARAH       mmn PARKER 
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED  Volume 10B  Page 343
 
1901 census ref 4784 47 23. Daughters Sarah & Easter(Esther)

MCGRATH, SARAH       mmn ALLAN 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in BERWICK  Volume 10B  Page 470

MCGRATH
ESTHER ELIZABET
mmn ALLAN
F
1898
442 / 511
KIRKCALDY AND ABBOTSHALL

1911 census********  address 21 Leonard's Court Gateshead, Gateshead, Durham, England

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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 December 23 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Lisa - before following up on the McGrath marriage - see my reply above & check you are following the correct line
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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 December 23 15:10 GMT (UK) »
If this is your Sarah & John then possible deaths

Deaths Dec 1914   
McGrath    Sarah    aged 52    Castle W.    10b   476
 
MCGRATH, JOHN  PATRICK  aged    72 
GRO Reference: 1930  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 777

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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 December 23 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Catherine was a widow 1911/21 census. She had a daughter born 1920 who appears with her in 1939. Catherine did not marry Thomas Evans until 1926.

A son born after Edwards death.

MATTHEWS, THOMAS       mmn ALLAN 
GRO Reference: 1912  M Quarter in BERWICK  Volume 10B  Page 999

Edward Matthews appears to have died aged 27 in 1908.

MATTHEWS, SARAH  EVANS     mmn ALLAY 
GRO Reference: 1920  J Quarter in BERWICK  Volume 10B  Page 1127

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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 December 23 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Catherine according to her GRO birth was born 18.11.1882 Chaple Street, Berwick mother Sarah as per opening post.

1881 census ref for Chaple Street  5130 5 4

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Deaths Dec 1962   
EVANS    Catherine    80    Nthmbld.N.1st.    1b   335

Deaths Jun 1951   
EVANS    Thomas P(Patterson)    66    Nthmbld.N.1st.    10a   324

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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 December 23 14:17 GMT (UK) »
East Cemetery Gateshead
John Patrick McGrath
Labourer
aged 72 years
abode ,5 Pollock St
died at 10 Church st
burial date 30th September 1930
religion stated as Catholic,
Place of burial, division 2
grave number 121,
Esther E Walsh aged 46 years buried in the same plot 3rd November 1945
Esthers abode at time of death was 87 Westmorland Road, husband was William,
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Re: Allan/Allen - Berwick upon tweed
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 December 23 14:36 GMT (UK) »
the 1939 register Has Esther and her husband William living in Westmorland Road Newcastle she is a munitions worker, surname is Welsh
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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