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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 December 23 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Like i said:

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The FindMyPast index transcriptions are quite misleading. The registers reveal that 30167 Edwd Morton was aged 20 in 1850, and 14025 Edwd Morton was aged 19 in 1865.

Those two Edwds would have been born circa 1830 and 1846 respectively. So not your man.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 December 23 16:48 GMT (UK) »
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True there are no records in the files but the newspaper reports mention him so presumably he existed but perhaps the files don’t

I can see newspaper reports of Serjeant Morton at New Inn but are there any that give his first name?

Johnston Morton's father Edward Morton was a wood ranger per the first marriage record https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09346/5383960.pdf

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #11 on: Friday 29 December 23 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Shaun,
A related thread here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=878910.9

Reply #14 onwards re Color Sgt Edward Morton. I posted it as this Edward had a police sergeant father and was staying close to Johnston Morton in 1871.
Johnston Morton had claimed his father was a police sergeant and it seemed quite coincidental and possibly. Link and confirmation re the marriage record.

I agree there is no mention of first name in the newspaper reports though.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #12 on: Friday 29 December 23 19:20 GMT (UK) »
The Registered Papers of the Chief Secretary only go to 1833 but there is mention of a Thomas Morton Chief Constable, from Roscommon, he applied for the post in 1831, John Flood Callan Co. Kilkenny made a complaint against him in 1833.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 January 24 15:38 GMT (UK) »

Constabulary Barrack, Loughkent West, Newinn, Co Tipperary.

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 January 24 17:15 GMT (UK) »

Former Constabulary Barracks, just off the R639 and about 150 metres from the crossroads in the centre of Newinn.

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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 January 24 05:30 GMT (UK) »
The Newinn police barrack still stands: https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/22206913/newinn-constabulary-barrack-loughkent-west-newinn-tipperary-south

Deeply suspect write up. Served the RIC until 1926? Indeed.
Also implies that the building was built as a barracks, which is inconsistent with the dates given.
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Re: Irish Police Force, New Inn, Tipperary 1834
« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 January 24 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks for your reply, I think the building is of Georgian origin perhaps turn of the 18th and 19th century, a short quote from Wikipedia Unlike police elsewhere in the United Kingdom, RIC constables were routinely armed (including with carbines) and billeted in barracks, and the force had a militaristic structure.
There were rules about who could serve in a specific region and who was allowed and when a member of the police force could marry, Constables were routinely moved around the county to avoid forming relationships with locals, so a barracks would serve as living quarters for the force.
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