Margaret Hardie (mmn Laurie)

[Truebrit]

Hi

We are researching the Hardie family of Coatbridge Glasgow: Thomas Muir Hardie (1880-1940); Margaret Hardie (mn Laurie) (1880-1959); and their children Thomas M (1901), John L (1903), George (1905), James (1908), Agnes M (1909), and Helen (1911).  There is also an adopted daughter Margaret Hardie Martin (1900).

We can see Thomas on the 1921 census in Coatbridge, a married man, with his sons but there is no sign of his wife Margaret or their daughters.  Can anyone spot where they are in 1921, in particular Helen?

TB

[scotmum]

Quite possibly:

HARDIE
AGNES M
1921
F
12
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

HARDIE
HELEN
1921
F
9
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

[scotmum]

I noticed the family advertising from their Coatbridge address, what appeared to be a holiday home (room and kitchen, 4 beds, near pier), in Tighnabruaich in 1930s, hence thought they may have links to Argyll area.

[scotmum]

HARDIE
MARGARET
1921
F
40
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

HARDIE
MARGARET
1921
F
22
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

So all four look to be together in Argyll, but also in same house are:

HARDIE
JAMES
1921
M
13
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

HARDIE
AGNES
1921
F
45
518/ 5/ 19
KILFINAN
ARGYLL

Was James with his dad and brothers at Coatbridge, or missing with his mum and sisters? Could Agnes snr be a sister of Thomas?

[Truebrit]

Thanks all.  I took a chance and downloaded that census and it was the right family.  I have not done much Scottish research to date and so am not very familiar with resources, and never would have found it without the help, so am grateful for everyone’s assistance. 

Where were the advertisements noted as they could be an interesting line of enquiry?

I am trying to find out more about this family - particularly Helen.  I think that she may have married a William George Biggs in 1951 so may not have had a family.  I see that she was buried with her parents in Coatbridge, following her death in 1989. Can recent certificates (the 1951 marriage or 1989 death) be ordered from anywhere?

Thanks

TB

[*Sandra*]

Came a cross this in the The Airdrie and Coatbridge Advertiser
Airdrie, Strathclyde, Scotland -  Sat, 28 Dec 1940 - Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-airdrie-and-coatbridge-advertiser/137612719/

and

The Airdrie and Coatbridge Advertiser
Airdrie, Strathclyde, Scotland
Sat, 22 Dec 1945 Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-airdrie-and-coatbridge-advertiser/137613521/

Sandra

[Forfarian]

Can recent certificates (the 1951 marriage or 1989 death) be ordered from anywhere?

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - but not now until after the New Year break. 

See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0

[*Sandra*]

Michigan, U.S., Marriage Records, 1867-1952

Thomas M Hardie - Birth Date   abt 1901   Scotland - aged 23 years
Marriage Date   1 Apr 1924 Detroit, Michigan
Residence Place   Detroit, Michigan
Father    Thomas Hardie - Mother    Margaret Lawrie
Spouse    Mary Beattie.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQQR-R32

Mary Beattie born 1902 Scotland - aged 22 years.
Marriage Date   1 Apr 1924   Detroit, Michigan
Residence Place   Detroit, Michigan
Father   Wm Beattie
Mother    Mary Hay
Spouse    Thomas M Hardie
Record Number   266732

U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960

Thomas Muir Hardie - Arrival Age   22  - Craneman
Record Type   Arrival 1 st July 1923 Montreal Canada on the Metagama
Birth Date   abt 1901 Scotland - Residence Place   Scotland
Port of Departure   Glasgow, Scotland
Line Number   16
Father   Thos M Hardie. 93 Dunbeth Road. Coatbridge.
Relative Name   John Beattie.  C/O Doctor Mawes.  8851 La Salle Boulevard Detroit.
Relative Relationship   Friend

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XPKJ-359

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/151633188/thomas-muir-hardie

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/151633188/thomas-muir-hardie#view-photo=267509461

A son Thomas Muir Hardie born 1924 Michigan - died 1947

Thomas Muir Hardie - aged 22 years - died 1947  644 / 18 / 599 - Polloc

Birth  - James Hardie - 1932 - 627/81 Cambuslang
Death - James Hardie - 0 - 1932 - 627 / 27 Cambuslang

Sandra

[Truebrit]

Thanks for those articles Sandra - very helpful.  They seem to tie in with the gravestone photo I located! Not sure who the daughter in law Crissie is though, and which of Thomas’s sons she married - not Thomas M Hardie by the look of it as the marriage you found for him was to a Mary.

All very helpful and appreciated.  Thanks

TB