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Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone - I was hoping someone might be able to help me locate a couple of houses in Bournemouth?  I expect that they are no longer standing, but would like to be able to see where they once were if that is the case.

The first one I am looking for is 'Dundonald, 82 Christchurch Road' - there was a school at this address for some years, definitely between 1889-1895 - the Principals were Mrs Fanny Fox and Miss Kate Williams.  I have looked on the National Libraries of Scotland (NLS) side by side maps and found an old map that shows very clearly each house along the road in about 1900 but none are numbered or named bar the odd huge house.  I think 82 was located roughly near the corner of Knole Road and Christchurch Road - Linden Hall is named on the 1900 map on one corner, and a modern map shows this site (now flats) is number 80.  The next corner sees a jump in numbering to 428 which is odd. 

The second house I am hoping to locate is 'St Elmo, Hawkwood Road' - the same two ladies were next at this address in the 1901 census.  I do not have a number for this house, and can see from modern maps that most of this road is now a car park bar a few houses at the eastern end.  I have found that the road was lined with detached houses in 1900 from the old maps on NLS website but again cannot pinpoint exactly where this house once stood (or may still stand if at the eastern end).

Any help locating where these houses once stood, or still stand, would be much appreciated!

Many thanks, Nina

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Re: Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 December 23 10:35 GMT (UK) »

The second house I am hoping to locate is 'St Elmo, Hawkwood Road' - the same two ladies were next at this address in the 1901 census.  I do not have a number for this house, and can see from modern maps that most of this road is now a car park bar a few houses at the eastern end.  I have found that the road was lined with detached houses in 1900 from the old maps on NLS website but again cannot pinpoint exactly where this house once stood (or may still stand if at the eastern end).


It is listed between 'Hawkwood' and 'St Winifreds' on the 1901 census.  The house on the other side of Hawkwood is listed as Shelley Grove (Crahton Close Road)
Have you tried looking for the property on later census or 1939 register.
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Re: Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 December 23 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Many of those houses still remain, some converted into care homes. I did manage to find and photograph one old house in that area for someone a few years ago. Unfortunately I am now housebound or I would have done the same for you.

I suggest you try following  the roads on Google street view.


Rosie99 made a typo, it should be Crabton Close Road.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 December 23 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jebber - I have had a bit of a wander on Google Street View but not much joy.  And thank you Rosie99 - with your info I will have another walkabout and see if anything remains!  At the moment I don't have a sub to Ancestry or FindMyPast so cannot access the census returns or 1939 register in full.  Many thanks, Nina


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 December 23 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie99 - those houses that you mentioned - do you know if they were on the north or south side of the street?  Many thanks, Nina

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 December 23 13:49 GMT (UK) »
It does not say what side, I was reading from a census return
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 December 23 14:04 GMT (UK) »
By 1921 they had moved a little further east to Wentworth Avenue, again no number. I know for certain those houses are still there.

 I looked to see if Kate Williams was still alive and in Wentworth Ave in 1939, because that would have given the number, but no luck.   I know who lived at no 29 in 1939, because my mother was governess to their two daughters, so I looked for them in 1921 in the hope I could work out the house number for your two, but the people I knew were living several roads away.

So I’m sorry, not much help to you.

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 December 23 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for having a look for me Jebber!  Fanny died in 1935 and Kate in 1937.  My next quest will be to find where they are buried, so I have emailed Bournemouth Council to see if they can help. 

Thank you Rosie99 for letting me know.

Nina


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Re: Looking for two old houses in Bournemouth ...
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 December 23 14:23 GMT (UK) »
The newspapers have several items referring to "Dundonald, Boscombe Hill". Also -
Leeds Mercury, 19 Oct 1901