Who was the mother of William Fullerton?

[Blairvadach]

Hi folks
Happy New Year and Lang my your lum reek!!

I am looking for some help with clarifying some confusion/conflicting information about William Fullerton 1869-1928.

He married Susan Hart (1867-1905) 1/1.1891 in Busby, Renfrewshire. William and Susan had five children.
I have the 1891 and 1901 census’s living in Busby. William works in as a printfield worker.

William then married Grace McAdam 12 Jul 1907 Alexandria, Balloch, Dunbartonshire. They were both widowed, they got married at Grace’s family home and both shared the same occupation, ( printfield hand). They had one daughter (my grandmother) born 1910.
The family are living in Bonhill, Alexandria.
At some point the family moved to Edinburgh were Grace died in 1920 and William died in 1928. He was a rubber worker on these death certificates.

On his marriage to Grace McAdam William provided that Eliza Fullerton was his mother and no father was recorded….however, on his marriage to Susan Hart he stated the his parents were John Fullerton, Printfield Labourer and Jane Fullerton M/S McGaw. John Fullerton and Jane McGaw are also recorded as being his parents on his death certificate!!
One of his granddaughters has a middle name McGaw!!!

The census information states that he was born in Ireland.

I have found a birth document for William Fullerton born 17th January 1869  Antrim, Ireland
Parents are John Fullerton and Eliza Craig!!!

Was Eliza his mother or Jane???
Any hints on how I can narrow this down would be appreciated.
Regards Tam

[rosie17]

On the 1901 census I noticed this
Address Main Street Busby Renfrewshire

John Fullerton age 80 born Antrim Retired printfield worker
Jane McGaw Fullerton age 86 born Antrim
James Fullerton age 41 born Antrim printfield labourer

They can be found on the census records 1881/1891

There is a death for a Janet Fullerton other name McGaw 1903 Bonhill  might be worth while looking at as William was in that area


Rosie

[Blairvadach]

Hi Rosie
Thanks for your help. This certainly is Janet McGaw and I have seen the address of her death before ( need to check my notes) I think it’s the McAdam side of my family.
I wonder if Williams parents John and Janet moved to Bonhill prior to William….he probably moved there and met Grace McAdam after the death of his first wife.
Dumbarton had a thriving print field industry back then.
Who was Eliza Fullerton then??
I have found a few children born to a John Fullerton and Eliza Craig including a William.
I will need to find the census.
C
Thanks again Tam

[Neale1961]

On the 2 marriage records for William, who are the witnesses?

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In case this is of use .....
These are two more children of John Fullerton and mother - McGaw living in Scotland

Both of these families are working in the calico / printfield industry and living around Busby area

Joseph FULLERTON b abt 1852 county Antrim;  d. 1921 Busby (married 1875 Cathcart to Rachel McCURLY)
Children – Janet, John, Francis, Joseph, Robert, Wilson, Bessie

Elizabeth Mary FULLERTON (Moore) b. abt 1842-1844? Ireland; d. 1920 Bonhill  (married Adam MOORE in 1877 Mearns)
Children – Letetia, David, Joseph

[Blairvadach]

Hi Neale
Do you mean Janet McGaw?
Cheers Tam

[AMBLY]

Hello

My money is on William being the illegitimate son of a daughter of  John and Janet - eg: Elizabeth?

Do you know who the Grandson is in their 1881 Census?

1881 CENSUS:  Struthers Land, Busby RNF
Head: John Fullerton 60, b Ireland
Wife: Jane 68, b Ireland
Dau: Jane Fullerton 32, b Ireland
Son: James Fullerton 25, b Ireland
Son: John Fullerton 22, b Ireland
Grandson: William John Fullerton 15, b Ireland, Bleachhouse worker

Could this be your William?

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

My initial questions included:
> William: Census 1891, 1901, 1911, 1921 - Do they all only say born Ireland - anything more specific?
> What are the names and birth order (years) of William's children
> Who were the witness to both marriages
> Who informed of his death
> What is the address of Janet McGaw's death - and who informed?

added:
In the 1881 Census, Janet & John Fullerton's daughter now Mrs Adam Moore:
Enumerated as:   Eliza Moore

She died: Elizabeth Moore or Fullerton, mms McGaw aged 70 - died 1920 Bonhill
Would be interesting to see who informed of her death?

Cheers
AMBLY

[Neale1961]

Hi Neale
Do you mean Janet McGaw?
Cheers Tam

Yes, Sorry, I have corrected the post. Their death certificates show mother as mcGaw.

Can you post the names of the witnesses to William's marriages?

[Neale1961]

My money is on William being the illegitimate son of a daughter of  John and Janet - eg: Elizabeth?
Do you know who the Grandson is in their 1881 Census?

I tend to agree with this theory.
a/ It looks as if the children of Fullerton and Mcgaw are born 1840s-1850s.

b/ Jane McGaw born abt 1813. Still having children in 1869??! Seems unlikely.