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Will from 1666
« on: Monday 01 January 24 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Attached (I hope) is a snip from the will of Edward Pegge of Ashbourne, gent, who died in 1666. I'm struggling with some words of the transcription but I'm also unclear about what had been going on between the named parties (the latter might be clearer if anyone can help with the transciption).

A bit more background: This was a wealthy family. Father Edward (the testator) had 2 sons, Edward and Christopher (C being the younger by nearly 20 years). He seems to have left almost everything to Christopher and to various charities. Francis Mundy (decd) was Edward snrs father in law, Adrian Mundy was his brother in law. German Pole was described in various other documents as a cousin. Both sons were attorneys, and National Archives has a lot of documents which refer to various members of this family taking other family members to court.

My attempt:
personall estate I doe will and bequeath to my son Edward on trust & confidence
he will see the estates and (?) or (?) to my sonne Xofer and the
60 (?) y and went to Mr Milward during the (?) and free my executors of and from
the (?) and the rest of the (?) and bequeaths in this my will (?) accordinge
to the (??) thereof And my (????) my sonne (??)
shall save and keep harmelesse  my sonne Edward his heirs executors and administrators
of and from all (??) and troubles which my Brother Adryan Mundy or Any other
shall (?) or bringe or cause to be (?) persecuted or brought agt my said sonne Edward
his heirs executors or administrators for or as being an executor or administrator of
Francis Mundy esq deceased or for or by reason of an award order or (?)
certificate made by Ferman Pole esq in a cause (?) in the high ct of
Chancery between the said Adryan and me and my said son Edward


Many thanks for any/all offers of help.



Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 January 24 22:00 GMT (UK) »
.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 January 24 22:11 GMT (UK) »
he will see the estate & guiftes hereby given or lymitted to my sonne Xpofer & the
60 l p(er) ann(um) rent to Mr milward dureinge the lease & free my Executors of & from
the same (?) & the rest of the guiftes & bequeathes in this my will p(er)formed accordinge
to the trew meaning thereof. and my ?  ?  ? my sonne xpofer
shall save & keepe harmelesse my sonne Edward his heirs Executors & Administrators
of & from all acc^ti^ons suits & troubles which my Brother Adryan Mundy or Any other
shall comence or bringe or raise to be comenced ^p(er)secuted^ or brought ag(ains)t my said sonne Edw(ard)
his heirs Executors or Administrators for or as being an Executor or Administrator of
ffrancis Mundy Esq(uir)e deceased or for or by reason of an award order or xxxxx
Certificate made by German Pole Esq(uir)e in a cause dependinge in the high Co(ur)t
of Chantery betweene the said Adryan pl(ain)(t)(iff) & me & my said sonne Edward
 


The line where it's creased in the middle looks as if it may say something like
'and my mind/desire (?) & will is that my sonne Edward...'
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 02:04 GMT (UK) »
Just a small enhancement to what has already been done:

The interlined word in the fifth last line is:  p(ro)secuted

When the crossing of the p comes down from the top it signifies p(ro).

As you know, when the crossing comes up from the bottom it signifies p(er)/p(ar)/p(ur).

Goldie, in relation to the creased line you say it ends with the name xpofer in your main transcript but have the name Edward in your last line.

That word certainly ends with _fer.

ADDED:

As you know, when the crossing comes up from the bottom it signifies p(er)/p(ar)/p(ur).

This should more accurately be expressed as:

As you know, when the crossing comes up from the bottom (or is just a straight line) it signifies p(er)/p(ar)/p(ur)/p(or).


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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi HD
Thanks for the information regarding pro/per/par etc.
You're quite right, it's 'xpofer' not Edward in that creased line.

Best wishes for a happy and healthy 2024! :)


Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 January 24 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to you both!

I wish I could find Francis Mandy’s will to see whether I can deduce what the fuss might have been about. I don’t think I can get to Kew to check out the NA.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 January 24 13:53 GMT (UK) »
I wish I could find Francis Mandy’s will to see whether I can deduce what the fuss might have been about. I don’t think I can get to Kew to check out the NA.

Annie, Francis Mundy's will is here:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D817403

It should be a free download if you sign in.  Alternatively it is on Ancestry in the PCC wills collection.

Adrian Mundy, German Poole and Edward Pegg are mentioned.

Goldie, thanks; and best wishes to you and Annie for a Happy New Year.

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Re: Will from 1666
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 January 24 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Ah, thankyou horselydown! I looked but I didn't see it!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)