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confirming William Stevens as a relative
« on: Tuesday 02 January 24 03:20 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year to you all,

Searching the website Find a Grave, I came across a baby and a William Stevens that states are siblings of my great-grandmother Alice May Prebensen née Stevens (aka May). I double-checked my father's research and in his writing he does not mention either. Upon my own recent look into the matter, I did find the baby was indeed related. With regard to William - I looked up BDM, and it seems there was indeed a William Stevens born in 1858 to James and Lydia Stevens. Also, my father wrote that the Stevens did indeed farm in Upper Hutt before relocating themselves to Carterton. So it all sounds highly probable, and I'm thinking the William on Find a Grave is indeed him. But, of course, that's not given proof.

I am guessing whoever updated the grave profile with the relationship must know it is correct? I contacted the initial creator of the page, but they can't confirm.

Please find the link to the Find a Grave page: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/166364379/william-stevens

Thank you for your time. I hope everybody has an enjoyable 2024.

My warmest regards to you all,

Ashley
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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 05:08 GMT (UK) »
Actual date of death on Nz Bdm is 19th August.

Is this the report of accident?

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01swe/

Of course, as you know, the death print out should be informative.

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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 06:36 GMT (UK) »
Newspaper item confirms Mr. James Stevens arrived per the Indian Queen:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WDT19130109.2.12?end_date=31-12-1913&phrase=2&query=james+stevens&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1913&type=ARTICLE

Passenger list shows 3* Stevens:

https://www.familytreecircles.com/indian-queen-28081.html

*Could one have been the baby? Perhaps died at sea?

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Newspaper item confirms Mr. James Stevens arrived per the Indian Queen:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WDT19130109.2.12?end_date=31-12-1913&phrase=2&query=james+stevens&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1913&type=ARTICLE

Passenger list shows 3* Stevens:

https://www.familytreecircles.com/indian-queen-28081.html

*Could one have been the baby? Perhaps died at sea?

Minniehaha.

The baby was stillborn on Nov 24th, 1856. I am not sure who the third would be?
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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 January 24 22:22 GMT (UK) »
I also found a Jane Ann Stevens b. March 25, 1869 & d. April 14, 1869
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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 January 24 08:48 GMT (UK) »

Searching the website Find a Grave, I came across a baby and a William Stevens that states are siblings of my great-grandmother Alice May Prebensen née Stevens (aka May).indeed him. But, of course, that's not given proof.

I am guessing whoever updated the grave profile with the relationship must know it is correct? I contacted the initial creator of the page, but they can't confirm.

Hi Ashley

Treat with great caution (until you are able to verify), the listings on Findagrave and similar sites.
There are helpful people who assist us greatly by photographing burial sites though many of them are not in any way related to the persons whose graves they are recording, and as such, any  addtional information supplied, should be checked further.

I have info for the 1856 "Baby STEVENS" which I'll post shortly.

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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 January 24 09:03 GMT (UK) »
UK, Registrations of Births, Deaths and Marriages at Sea :

BT 158 Registers of Births Deaths and Marriages : Piece 01
[ Source:  ancestry.com ]

Liverpool  29.3.1858 "Indian Queen" Liverpool; 24,000 - David F. Johnson, Master

James STEVENS /  ------- *  STEVENS / Male / 24 Nov 1856  /  Still Born


[* -------  My notation ...  denotes christian name of infant not recorded.    Also the registration of birth was not made until the year 1858.]

[FYI  ... there appears to have been another five births on this voyage -- father's name / sex of child / d.o.b. / and the words "Not Christened"  are listed for each. ]

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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 January 24 02:51 GMT (UK) »
UK, Registrations of Births, Deaths and Marriages at Sea :

BT 158 Registers of Births Deaths and Marriages : Piece 01
[ Source:  ancestry.com ]

Liverpool  29.3.1858 "Indian Queen" Liverpool; 24,000 - David F. Johnson, Master

James STEVENS /  ------- *  STEVENS / Male / 24 Nov 1856  /  Still Born


[* -------  My notation ...  denotes christian name of infant not recorded.    Also the registration of birth was not made until the year 1858.]

[FYI  ... there appears to have been another five births on this voyage -- father's name / sex of child / d.o.b. / and the words "Not Christened"  are listed for each. ]

     ~    Lu

Thanks Lu, your information is much appreciated. I am guessing there must be a record of William Steven's inquest?
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Re: confirming William Stevens as a relative
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 January 24 03:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lu, your information is much appreciated. I am guessing there must be a record of William Steven's inquest?


Yes ... an inquest by a Dr SPRATT was held the day prior to the very detailed circumstances of his demise being written up in the "Wairarapa Standard" - 22 August 1878.  A note at end of article, suggested a report of inquest would be published in a later edition.   [I searched over several days (on all NZ papers) but failed to find a mention. ]

   ~   Lu
 
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Mckha ... has already given you a link to abovementioned article - see Reply No. 1

*    Perhaps try FamilySearch too - I understand some inquests are published  there ?  NOT