Elizabeth MINNS in Devon and Essex

[Richard Knott]

This a rehash of a post I made in 2010 which didn't lead to any information:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=478438.msg6728611#msg6728611

Elizabeth LANE was born in Bigbury, Devon in 1826.
In the 1841 (aged 15) and the 1851 (aged 22) she is a servant in Bigbury/Stoke Damerel.

In 1852 she married Lancelot MINNS, a gunner & driver. They had two children in Bigbury that I know of: Emily Jane Lane MINNS (1853) and Edward Launcelot MINNS (1857).

Lancelot MINNS spends most of the next twenty years fighting abroad before returning in 1871 and moving back to live alone in Northumberland where he was born (he died there in 1884).  Oddly, in 1861, Elizabeth seems to have remarried and moved to Woodham Walter in Essex:

John COE, 65; Hannah COE, 68, wife; Eliz Ellen COE, 29, mar, daughter-in-law, b Bigbury, Devon; Emily MINNS, 7, visitor, b Plymouth.

I cannot explain this entry. John had three sons, but none appear to have married Elizabeth.

I can't find Elizabeth or Emily after 1861 except for another odd entry in 1891 in Woodford, Essex (about 30 miles west of Woodham Walter):

Eliz L MINNS (indexed as MUNNIS), widow, 60, mother, b Devon
Laura BESANT, 30, widow, dau, b London
Ralph BESANT, 31, son, b Scotland

The strange relationships don't appear to fit and, of course, this may not be Elizabeth LANE/MINNS/COE

Any sightings of Elizabeth, Emma or Edward after 1861 would be appreciated. (There is a death of an Edward MINNS, aged 2, at sea in 1860; but hat would mean that the family accompanied Lancelot and then came back before 1861). The Elizabeth married to Joshua COE is not the right person.

Richard

[Milliepede]

Oddly, in 1861, Elizabeth seems to have remarried and moved to Woodham Walter in Essex:

Do you have the marriage certificate with further info?  If so does her age match, is she calling herself a widow, does the fathers name match?

I wonder if in 1861 her surname has been copied as Coe by mistake and it should have been Minns same as
Emily

[Richard Knott]

I wonder if in 1861 her surname has been copied as Coe by mistake and it should have been Minns same as
Emily

Thanks for replying; that seems a good theory, although she is listed as a daughter-in-law to John COE.
I haven't found the relevant marriage (and ma not sure it exists).

R

[Milliepede]

Yes it doesn't make sense at all does it relationship wise.   

Been looking for further sightings of her and Emily but no luck so far.
Most of the Minns surnames seem to come from Norfolk.

[Milliepede]

Coincidence I'm sure but there is a Lane Minns birth in Sep 1862 on Free BMD which I can't find on the GRO website **

Was also thinking Elizabeth could have gone back to her Lane surname and remarried or died under that.

**found it under Munns with maiden name Lane.

[softly softly]

I wondered if this was Emily from 1861 census,

MINNS, EMILY  JANE LANE    LANE 
GRO Reference: 1853  J Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL  Volume 05B  Page 292

SS

info already known--what a I am

[Milliepede]

Yes that's the right Emily I do believe. 

[Richard Knott]

Coincidence I'm sure but there is a Lane Minns birth in Sep 1862 on Free BMD which I can't find on the GRO website **

Was also thinking Elizabeth could have gone back to her Lane surname and remarried or died under that.

**found it under Munns with maiden name Lane.

Well spotted. It was too tempting so I've wasted £2.50 and it isn't the same people!
Yes, I've also looked under Minns/Lane/Coe for both Elizabeth and Emily but found nothing. There was an Emily Jane Minns who married in 1878 but she isn't the same person.
It seems odd that none of them marry or die or emigrate.

Richard

[Milliepede]

I was thinking about the little Edward who died at sea.  Do you have the name of the ship? 

If so can a passenger list be traced to see who he was travelling with?  That would rule him in or out.