Mornement in or around Hoxne and Southery C 1700

[Essnell]

Hi everyone,

Hoping to get help on something almost impossible. 
So here are the details.  My OH's line is Mornement.  The most distsant known individual is John Mornement born 1707 in Hoxne. 
We do not have his parents.  but recent info has two possibilities: 

1.   A Christopher Mornement from Southery who had a son baptised as John Mornement in 1706. Christopher died apparently in 1708 in Southery.    His wife was Mary.  I do not have any more about her or them.
Anything about them would be very helpful.

2.   Stephen Moninent, widower. He married Elizabeth Wales at Ditchingham, Norfolk on 27th September 1698.
Anything about this couple would also be very helpful. 

  I am about to try myself as well. 

thanks for anything   
Essnell.
 

[mckha489]

Can you please elaborate on John 1707 Hoxne
Where do you get that date from?

Who did he marry etc and what are the names and dates of birth for his children.

[Essnell]

HI Mckha489,  thanks for your interest ,

John born 1707.

1. Earlier family research document  by someone else about 35 yrs ago.
2. It has been deduced from his burial date and age at death .  buried 1782 aged 74yrs.   I was lucky to get information on the burial sent from the Suffolk FHS  via the Norfolk FHS a few years ago to back up this other information. There were 4 people in that request.

He married Sarah Roper. Sept 1735     
Children: John 1736;  William 1738; Lydia 1740;  Mary 1742; James 1744; Robert 1750.
I have been looking but found nothing so far. 
I have quite a lot of information about John's descendants.  It's further back that is what I am looking for. 


Essnell

 

[fiddlerslass]

Have you checked hearth taxes for your surname of interest, as that would give an idea of distribution and parishes to check?

Here is Suffolk 1674 - there is an index to surnames; I didn't see any Mornement or similar, but you can double check.

https://archive.org/details/suffolkin1674bei00shah

[mckha489]

So… no son named Christopher or Stephen  . That is a pity.

[Essnell]

Hi Mckha489. 

Yes it makes it all the harder to pin down. 
With the Christopher person he died in 1708 so John would never have known him if that was who his father was.  I wonderd at this info as to how he was cared for as an infant of 1-2 yrs of age.   

Thanks again for your interest. 
Essnell.

[Essnell]

Fiddlerslass,

thank you for the link. such a brilliant book  I did check the list of all persons but no Mornement or anything like it.   It makes one wonder.   
   Just have to keep digging around.   Maybe something will fall into place. 

Essnell.

[fiddlerslass]

Surname does seem to be more commonly found in Norfolk. Very few hits at that date on the National archives. Looking at surname mapping there are no east Anglian hits.


https://www.surnamemap.eu/unitedkingdom/index.php?sur=MORNeMENT&s=Search

[Ili1133]

I agree with fiddlerslass about the name being associated with Norfolk.

What variations on Mornement have you found? Do you think the name could have been changing around the time the family settled in Hoxne? A quick search doesn’t throw up Mornement as a family name anywhere in the country much before 1700.

Long shot but I wondered because Norfolk Record Office has early (17th century) wills for Moniment, including a 1679 Will for a Katharine Monyment, widow of Roydon and Whissonsett. Roydon is about 5 miles from Hoxne, the other side of Diss, but Whissonsett is about 35 miles away in mid/north Norfolk.

Did John and Sarah’s children marry locally to Hoxne?