Pierre Aumonier Baptism in French 1632

[Zefiro]

It is likely my fault..........will try again.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G7Y8-14C

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LKBC-9VS

the problem stays the same; I keep getting 'something went wrong, please refresh the page'
When I search by ID (G7Y8-14C for instance), I get part of the tree, but clicking on the names gives me the error.

[Woollie]

I feel it a security issue as I can open the links......the Tree is Public though but I have seen that meesage myself at times.... I want you to see the Tree so it is annoying of course.
Hoping this gets solved somehow. Sent a message anyway.

[joger]

I think it is  : pierre Arnauldet sieur de la baillonniere

[Woollie]

Thanks for confirming the Peer/Lord and I have seen a few now being witness's on documents and the Mayor/Marie is used as well. Most use there relations though as the norm.

[joger]

Well,Sieur did not mean Seigneur. No sign of nobility in this word , it was given to a bourgeois, a rich merchant .
Your " Mayor Lady Marie" is a wrong translation of the words "dame ( or damoiselle) Marie" which is the feminine equivalent of sieur.

[Woollie]

The translation is a difficult task and I am impressed with what has been posted.

For my thoughts I think it depends on the context it is used and a landowner at that period in time could be classed as an English Sir or Lord or similar style name and does not suggest Royalty or Nobility.

[shanreagh]

The translation is a difficult task and I am impressed with what has been posted.

For my thoughts I think it depends on the context it is used and a landowner at that period in time could be classed as an English Sir or Lord or similar style name and does not suggest Royalty or Nobility.

I don't think that is quite correct and could to errors.  Some of my family were English landowners in fee simple and by lease, at that time and would never have classed themselves as Sir or Lord. 

[Woollie]

''don't think that is quite correct and could to errors.  Some of my family were English landowners in fee simple and by lease, at that time and would never have classed themselves as Sir or Lord''

Can see what your expressing for the English ways but in 17th Century France I would call then Labels rather than real Titles, the actual Land Owners would be calling themselves Lords as in Lord of the Land. Not Nobility or Royal just wealthy people who did not work but used the rest called Peasants for that. The Peasants hoped to make enough to feed their family and keep a warm roof over their heads.
Around 80% of the Population worked for these so called Lords. Changes would take place but it was a long time coming.

[Woollie]

Thinking now this is not the Baptism of the Pierre Aumonier born 1630 in Fressines, Deux Sevre, France on my Tree that I wanted to trace birth documents for.

Thanks for help once more.