Lord Frederick North 1732-1792

[2ndEarl]

Not sure - is this the death of James NORTH in 1812:

"On Monday, aged 69, Mr James North, Schoolmaster, and Secretary to the Lying-in Charity ... of Hull"
Friday,  June 12, 1812
Publication: Stamford Mercury

So this one was born c1743.

Thank you for your reply but I don't think it is.The James North I have was born in 1760

Kind regards

Adrienne

[2ndEarl]

I see a tree on Ancestry that has James NORTH (1760-1812) as son of Lord Frederick NORTH, however ...

In the marriage they have for James in 1788 to Martha LEE, James is a clothier of Cleverly. He does not sign (signs with an "x") and one of the witnesses is a William NORTH. Of course this doesn't rule out his parentage, but I find it highly unlikely the son of Lord NORTH would not be able to sign his name. I think I would be looking for a family with a brother or other close relative William NORTH.

Thank you for your reply.
I do agree that it seems strange if a man on that position could not sign his name.
I have attached a copy of the marriage entry but there is no reference to his profession.
Is it possible you could send me a copy of the certificate.

Thank you again

Adrienne

[trish1120]

Hi Adrienne,

Is the info you have for James 1760-1812 from a Tree of someone else?

Did your James marry Martha Lee?

A Tree has only 1 child to them Harriot bapt 30 Oct 1788 • Sutton, Father JAMES

On FreeREG;
Baptisms;

St James, Sutton-on-Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire

North, Father JAMES, no Mother named

HARRIOT    30 Oct 1788
JOHN 26 Apr 1791
ANN    16 Nov 1792
GEORGE 30 Apr 1796   
JAMES 02 Jan 1799
THOMAS 27 Jan 1802
JOSEPH 20 Jan 1804

[trish1120]

Occp is in top right hand corner

[trish1120]

If you look at the other Marriages on page a few Clothiers, Shoemaker/Mason etc for males.

[2ndEarl]

This tree has Katherine Anne North b 1760 as Frederick and Ann Speke first born - same year as the other tree has James b 1760- they married 20th May 1756  - so 4 years before a first born ??...seems a long time ??
https://gw.geneanet.org/pierrejean75?n=north&oc=&p=frederick

Yes I see what you mean about 4 years being quite a long time.
Out of interest I have seen other information sayiying there wa also a Catherine born in 1760 but who sadly drowned in an estate poll at the age of 6 but I have never found any records to substansiate this. You mentioned that there was another tree whish says James North was born in 1760 (I did see somewhere his D.O.B was 1766 so could be a mistype?) Can you give me a link to this tree.

Thank you for your input

Adrienne

[hanes teulu]

This has 7 children under "Family and Education"
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1790-1820/member/north-frederick-1732-92

[maddys52]

Some newspaper announcements that I can find:

"Tuesday the Lady of Lord North was safely delivered of a Son and Heir."
September 13, 1757 - September 15, 1757
Publication: London Evening Post

"Saturday the Lady of the Right Hon. Lord North, one of the Lords of the Treasury, was safely delivered of a Daughter at his House in Grosvenor-street."
February 16, 1760 - February 19, 1760
Publication: Whitehall Evening Post

"Saturday the Lady of Lord North was safely delivered of a Son, at his House in Grosvenor-street."
December 26, 1761 - December 29, 1761
Publication: Whitehall Evening Post

There is also this one:
"May 31. At London, the Lady of Lord North, of a son."
   Thursday,  May 1, 1777
Publication: The Scots Magazine

Will keep looking for other birth announcements, however, note the one in 1757.

[maddys52]

"Last week the newborn son of Lord North was baptised at his Lordship's House in Grosvenor Street, by the name of George Augustus. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales and the Princess Dowager and the Earl and Countess of Guildford, were Sponsors."
October 15, 1757 - October 18, 1757
Publication: London Chronicle