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Re: Researching a beautiful london Actress... and failing
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 January 24 08:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you noticed on the 1911 census - mother Annie has put "not yet" under Infirmity, and Birth Place for Maurice is "in bed" - both crossed out.  ;D 

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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 January 24 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Tatler 1937


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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 January 24 09:13 GMT (UK) »
When Annie died, Julia is mentioned on her probate record.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W764-B4W2
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/39011/page/4513/data.pdf
Her address was 36 Sillwood-Road Brighton
(the other name is a solicitor)

It would probably be worth getting a copy of the will. Perhaps the other children are listed.
Following up the Brighton location, I found her 1939 register entry

Her birth is stated as 5 oct 1864, "Independent mean" (obviously  ;) ), with one Anthony Tooth, born 1859 living with her. The address is 127, Lansdowne Place, Hove.

Lots of other retired/own means residence nearby. It's still there, a road lined on both sides with rather fabulous looking flats.
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Re: Researching a beautiful london Actress... and failing
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 January 24 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Anthony Tooth died 1943 and probate was to Annie James, widow.



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Re: Researching a beautiful london Actress... and failing
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 13 January 24 10:00 GMT (UK) »
This is just a shot in the dark – via a connection through the name Julia – but as a candidate for Annie James, there is an Annie IVIN birth registered Q4 1864 Marylebone, mmn HOPE.

In the 1871 census there is a family in Bethnal Green with an Annie IVIN of the correct age with a mother and a younger sister both named Julia. The mother has Darlington, Durham as her birthplace. In 1881 the family is now living in Darlington, Julia (mother) is a widow, and a son Richardson HOPE aged 22 has appeared (see mmn above).

I haven't found Annie Ivin again after the 1881 census.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 13 January 24 10:50 GMT (UK) »
from The Worthing Herald, Friday November 6th, 1959

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Wedding gown for his model
Leading French fashion designer Pierre Balmain has offered to make a wedding gown for his top model, 19-year-old Patricia Donald Smith of Angmering, when she marries next year.

Pat...will marry another "Pat" – Parisian industrialist M. Patrick Dollfus – in London next March.
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This weekend Pat's parents...will meet M. and Mme. Maurice Dollfus at their Parisian home.
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Oops - the wedding didn't happen;

Daily Mirror,  Thursday 03 June 1965

... Balmain model Patricia Donald-Smith. Anti after yesterday's Derby Day wedding at St. Margaret's Church, Westminster, she is Baroness Selsdon of Croydon. Patricia-24 and sft. 9in. tall married the 27-year-old baron two years after a love at first sight meeting ...
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Re: Researching a beautiful london Actress... and failing
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 13 January 24 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Anyone else wondering about Annie's lodger in 1911?
Lance/Lancelot Crossland born 1871 Bradford ,a wool buyer.
He's still at that address in 1921 with a new housekeeper.
Seems a bit odd or is that a red herring?
He dies in 1923 and is buried back in Yorkshire in a family plot.
Just a thought

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Re: Researching a beautiful london Actress... and failing
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 13 January 24 12:50 GMT (UK) »
I was trying to find Julia or family members on 1921, and FindMyPast (to which I don;t subscribe) suggested an article from the Tatler. I've searched their archives on BNA, and the free search throws up a number of article snippets which suggest Julia was American born.

It's very odd. They've been writing of her since 1909, but the first mention of American birth is 1915

" TO-NIGHT'S THE NIGHT 2ini wlrnielh tlhSs SttsnF Eg SlbiiniEinigo MISS JULIA JAMES Who is an American by birth, has spent nearly all her stage life in this country. At the Gaiety Theatre she soon made herself a popular favourite, her lovely Titian hair ..."
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