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Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« on: Saturday 13 January 24 00:29 GMT (UK) »
In general, do Cemetery and Crematorium records refer to next of kin?

I hope to trace the family of the life partner [then known as 'Companion'] of my aunt before they split up.
I find now find that they are both in the same Bath cemetery but
without a middle name, her names seem quite common especally in Ireland.

On the electoral roll they are both listed on the 1961/1962 in the Dorset village of Cattistock before moving to Bath, Somerset.

Deaths 1989   (>99%)
VERDON    MARGARET    15JY1897    DEVIZES    23   1680   
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Margaret Verdon
1897–1989
BIRTH 15 JUL 1897 • BIRTH NOT YET FOUND
DEATH 28 SEP 1989 • DEVIZES, Wiltshire, England buried Haycombe Cemetery and Crematorium, Bath, Somerset,


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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 January 24 01:29 GMT (UK) »
You haven't  found her birth, have you followed her through  the 1901, 1911 and 1921 census for any leads on her

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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 January 24 02:50 GMT (UK) »
1939 they are both in Spalding Lincolnshire

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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 January 24 03:07 GMT (UK) »
1921 check - 55 Warwick Road, Southgate Middlesex.


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Frank Meredith Lewis married Ivy Martin Vernon? 1918 Dublin Ireland.

Frank Lewis,  Ivy Lewis and Margaret Verdon are together ref: 1921.

I expect Ivy is her sister.


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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 January 24 03:38 GMT (UK) »
1901 census Mayo Ireland

George Jones Vernon 43
Jane Waring Vernon 44
James Daly Vernon 16
William Wood Vernon 11
Violet Caroline Vernon  9
Aimee Murice Vernon 7
Ivy Martin Vernon 4
Messyn George Vernon 4
Mary Sarah Vernon 3
Herbert Scott Vernon (no age given)


1911
Jane is a widow
same children except
Ivy Martin is now Joy
Messyn George is now Mostyn George
Mary Sarah is now Margaret

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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 January 24 07:37 GMT (UK) »
Birth registration of Ivy:
6th April 1896, Ballinrobe, Co Mayo
Ivy Martin Vernon, (6:10am)
father: St George Jones Vernon
Mother: Jane Vernon formerly Philson
Informant: Ernest St George Vernon of Ballinrobe

Also, same day:
George Mostyn Vernon (6am)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 January 24 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Margaret's birth.
21st March 1898

Same parents
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 January 24 08:00 GMT (UK) »

Quote
1911
Jane is a widow
same children except
Ivy Martin is now Joy
Messyn George is now Mostyn George
Mary Sarah is now Margaret

Note George Vernon still alive.

House 2 in North Mall (Westport, Urban, Mayo)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/North_Mall/749540/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003049916/

Marriage - 30 March 1881 - Omagh Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10990/8018430.pdf


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Re: Crematorium and cemetery: Next of kin records?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 January 24 08:44 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I missed George in 1911 thanks for the correction

It seems to add up based on who she is living with 1921 and being in Lincolnshire on 1939 register. Frank Lewis was born there.

1939  Margaret gives her birth date as 15 July 1897.
She is living with her partner, who I won't name as "elliot" has not named her, that's a lot different than 21 March 1898.

Did she not know her true birth date?