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Lee family Averham
« on: Sunday 14 January 24 17:33 GMT (UK) »
hello
I am trying to trace the marriage of Richard Lee 1770-1851 born Averham and his wife  Mary ( surname unknown). Richard is the son of John Lee and Elizabeth(Mayfield). I have been using the Free Parish Register records for Averham.

Richard was baptised 30 June 1770 . He is on the Averham census for 1841 with Mary. She was buried 16 Feb 1842 averham.

Richard is on the 1851 census with his son Robert (a widower) and Richards grandchildren.
As no marriage is listed for Richard in Averham  as was traditional he will have married in he brides parish but I don't have that information.
Richard and Mary had at least 3 sons

There are some trees on line that say Richard Married Catherine Smith on 13 april 1789 in Mansfield . Its of course possible he did and Mary was a second wife but I have not been able to establish whether he married twice .
I would appreciate any help in trying to find a marriage for Richard and Mary  and establishing if he did marry twice .
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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 January 24 17:45 GMT (UK) »
1841 census has Marys age as 74, Richard was 70.  When and where is the baptism of the first child that you know about
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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 January 24 18:03 GMT (UK) »
 Richard Lee who married Catherine at Mansfield was of Kneesall.

Have you looked at FreeReg? Averham has baptisms of Richard's children, but no mothers name shown
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 January 24 18:09 GMT (UK) »
I've just written a really long post and had it deleted! Grr!

In short:

What details do you have of other children? Can't look up baptisms without some names and dates.

No obvious baptism for Robert on the Notts FHS data. The only one remotely in the timescale was in Kneesall, 1796, son of Richard and Catherine (as fits this marriage: 1789 04 13   Richard   LEE   Catherine   SMITH   MANSFIELD St Peter and St Paul).

Mary Lee was buried in Averham in 1842. There are no other Lee burials before this date that would fit the timescale of a first wife. There are burials in Kneesall for Richard and Catherine Lee in 1829 and 1845, respectively, so that would rule out them out.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)


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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 January 24 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Aha! Found Averham baptisms for Richard's children (I'd been searching with Rich* and needed to look at Ric*!) Mother Mary.

1800 02 05   Son   Ricd.    parents Ricd.   LEE   Mary               
1801 12 15   Son   John    parents Ricd.   LEE   Mary            
1806 02 11   Son   Robert parents Ric.   LEE   Mary         

The Notts FHS CD has NO marriages for a Richard Lee and Mary in the relevant time period.    
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 January 24 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Possible?

Syston, Lincolnshire, 16 May 1796

Richard Lee of South Muskham,Notts, married Mary Pepper OTP.
Witnesses Frances Thornton and John Summer.

South Muskham is only about 3 miles from Averham.

I can't see any baptisms for this couple in Syston, but Richard Lee married Sarah Littel (?) (both OTP) in 1817 there. There are 2 baptisms in Averham for children born to Richard Lee and Sarah (1834, Richard, and1836, John) -- poss this couple, ie the son and grandson shown on  the 1851 census? (Sarah Lee was buried in Averham in 1842).

Mary Lee's given age in the 1841 census was 74.
Mary Pepper was bapt in Syston in 1766, so that age would fit.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Lee family Averham
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 January 24 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all.  Very grateful for you looking at this. I did not think the Richard /Catherine marriage .  was correct. 
yes the free parish record for Averham is what lead me to question the Knessall marriage .
Syson makes more sense.

thank you for pointing me in the correct direction.