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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 January 24 05:32 GMT (UK) »
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 January 24 05:34 GMT (UK) »
Feighney is "translated" as Hunt

https://www.libraryireland.com/names/of/o-fiachna.php

So, wife's/mother's name actually Feighney.

Looks like the first son was named for the maternal grandfather, second son for the paternal grandfather.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 January 24 07:28 GMT (UK) »
Some great finds there  :)
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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 January 24 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Just come back on-line, so must thank you for all that work - much appreciated.

The 1842 marriage must be the one I want, and I accept your statement that FEIGHNEY has been translated as HUNT, but was she Honor (1842/5), Hannah (1851 & 61) or Ann (1871 & 81)?
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower


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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 January 24 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Just come back on-line, so must thank you for all that work - much appreciated.

The 1842 marriage must be the one I want, and I accept your statement that FEIGHNEY has been translated as HUNT, but was she Honor (1842/5), Hannah (1851 & 61) or Ann (1871 & 81)?

Honor is Hannah, or rather the other way around.

https://www.libraryireland.com/names/women/onora-honor.php
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 January 24 11:40 GMT (UK) »
I accept your statement that FEIGHNEY has been translated as HUNT

Hunt is not a translation of Feighney, which is why I put it in quotation marks. Just one of the spurious Anglicizations imposed at the time. The Gaelic surname name O'Fiachna is derived from Fiach, which actually translates to Raven.

Note that Bartholomew and Honor may very well not have been native English speakers.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 January 24 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. You've given me the marriage I sought, but, what name(s) do I attribute to Bartholomew's wife? The records show:-

07 Jul 1842 Honor HUNT            marriage
07 Jul 1845 Honor FEIGHNEY      birth of son, John
          1851 Hannah QUIGLEY     census
          1855      -      HUNT         mmn, birth of Thomas
          1860      -      HUNT         mmn, birth of Michael
          1871  Ann QUIGLEY         census

The transition Honor - Hannah - Ann is really not a problem, but, what was her surname at birth? Or, do I have to look for a baptism under both surnames?
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 January 24 21:36 GMT (UK) »
The transition Honor - Hannah - Ann is really not a problem, but, what was her surname at birth? Or, do I have to look for a baptism under both surnames?

I think it is pretty clear that her original surname was Feighney (Tythe valuation, baptism record),  original Gaelic O'Fiachna.
But she lived at the time of the forced Anglicization of Ireland, so her name was, in that area, commonly made equivalent to Hunt, even though it is not a translation.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 January 24 21:46 GMT (UK) »
if I were to put her in a database, it would be as Feighney, alias Hunt
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area